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  • twok2lcdcnc
    Rockin and Cockin
    • Nov 2023
    • 41
    • Cleveland, OH

    #1

    PGP bargain bin score (I think). Looking for info and advice...

    Perusing the vendor tables at a scenario game on Sunday, I found this in a "make an offer" bin filled with mostly Brass Eagle and Tippmann parts. Picked it up for $20.

    I've been 'balling since about '97. I bought a new PGP in the early '00s, so I'm somewhat familiar with the platform, but I never maintained (or even cleaned lol) my old one. It was a tank. I don't have any 12g cartridges to test it with, but I'm going to assume it needs some thorough TLC to get it up and running. It cocks back and dry fires, but the action is rough and the o-rings that I can see are pretty roached. Otherwise it seems to be fully intact with all the essential parts.

    Do you guys have any estimates on its age? I can't find any serial number databases, or even a complete list of different versions/generations. From what I can tell the "PA series" has the easier to maintain cartridge style valve. So that's a good thing, right?

    I'm also trying to decide what to do with it - from a purely monetary/value standpoint, is it worth fixing up? Right now all of these options are on the table:

    - Hang it on the wall next to my Sniper SHO, which is in perpetual "I'll rebuild this someday, just not today" status. Basically make it a museum/conversation piece.

    - Do the bare minimum to get it up and running, then keep it around as a novelty and occasionally bust it out during scenario games. This is likely within my abilities, provided that I can find some decent guides and source the correct parts.

    - Totally trick it out. I see that freak boring is a thing, along with refinishing and a myriad of other mods. I'm just not sure if there are any shops that still do this - I don't have the tools or experience to do my own machining/custom work.

    - Sell it to someone who is more knowledgeable, capable, and will enjoy it more than I will.

    I'm also open to suggestions other than what I listed above. What do you all think?
  • Jonnydread
    Wild Card
    • Jul 2020
    • 4386
    • Lil Rhody

    #2
    $20 is a steal!

    For more info on PGP modding I recommend reaching out to JeeperCreeper , AnarchicArctic , Shaftski or one of the other brass magicians skulking around these parts.
    πŸ’€ PK x Ragnastock πŸ’€

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    • JeeperCreeper
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      I have an ever growing waiting list, Im booked solid through the winter, just FYI
  • BrickHaus
    Tactical Spoon Reacquired
    • Sep 2020
    • 3396
    • Minnesota

    #3
    I vote trick it out! But I love custom brass.

    Fun fact, you have a cartridge valve in this pgp, so you can easily change the lower tube for a longer variation. That should make tricking it out easier.
    https://www.mcarterbrown.com/forum/b...khaus-feedback

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    • twok2lcdcnc
      Rockin and Cockin
      • Nov 2023
      • 41
      • Cleveland, OH

      #4
      Originally posted by BrickHaus View Post
      I vote trick it out! But I love custom brass.

      Fun fact, you have a cartridge valve in this pgp, so you can easily change the lower tube for a longer variation. That should make tricking it out easier.
      Thanks for the confirmation on the cartridge valve. I would love to make it vertical/hopper feed, constant air (maybe a 13/3000 or 26/3000 bottomline ASA), and be able to use inserts for proper bore sizing. If that's even possible.

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      • JeeperCreeper
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        Its all definitely possible
    • Ecapnation
      MCB Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 4209
      • South Central Long Island

      #5
      Originally posted by twok2lcdcnc View Post

      Thanks for the confirmation on the cartridge valve. I would love to make it vertical/hopper feed, constant air (maybe a 13/3000 or 26/3000 bottomline ASA), and be able to use inserts for proper bore sizing. If that's even possible.
      Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it.... Doesn't mean it will perform as expected though

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      • Carp
        enter over there..☝
        • Jul 2020
        • 4823
        • ....on the 13th floor!

        #6
        Please, find an already maimed and molested body for that kind of adventure! That is a beautiful survivor PGP.... πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

        Originally posted by twok2lcdcnc View Post

        Thanks...[snip][/snip]. I would love to make it vertical/hopper feed, constant air (maybe a 13/3000 or 26/3000 bottomline ASA), and be able to use inserts for proper bore sizing. If that's even possible.


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        • Ecapnation
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          You guys cut up KP's for breakfast!!

        • Carp
          Carp commented
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          Ecapnation ...I'll have you know, I've never harmed a Sheridan marker. A SplatMaster, once. But, I was young and really wanted a pvc DF w/ elbow and a 2ft stick feed from the local hardware store. ....I digress!

        • JeeperCreeper
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          I dont harm them either, I make them fun and usable with todays paint.
      • Daltech
        Electro<Mech<Pump
        • Feb 2022
        • 872
        • West Coast

        #7

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        • Carp
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          Although, I do prefer a good patina over a high-quality polish.πŸ˜‰
      • Jordan
        I. Am. Canadian. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦
        • Jul 2020
        • 3473
        • Southern Ontario, Canada

        #8
        Originally posted by twok2lcdcnc View Post

        Thanks for the confirmation on the cartridge valve. I would love to make it vertical/hopper feed, constant air (maybe a 13/3000 or 26/3000 bottomline ASA), and be able to use inserts for proper bore sizing. If that's even possible.
        Your money would be better spent on building a Sniper/pump Cocker, in all honesty. Probably be cheaper and perform better.
        And God turned to Gabriel and said: β€œI shall create a land called Canada of outstanding natural beauty, with majestic mountains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabitants prosper and call them Canadians, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all people.”

        β€œBut Lord,” asked Gabriel, β€œIs this not too generous to these Canadians?”

        And God replied, β€œJust wait and see the neighbors I shall inflict upon them."

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        • Hellion360
          Power Lurker
          • Jul 2020
          • 2451

          #9
          https://pgpjunkies.bigcartel.com/products

          You can grab some useful parts here. I haven't used him, but the reviews I have seen are good so far.
          Need Inception Designs or Shocktech Products? Let me know!

          MCB Feedback --------- MCB Consolidated WTB

          old PBN feedback

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          • Winklebottom
            Phantom phan
            • Aug 2024
            • 68
            • Pcola

            #10
            Sell it to me for 40$ and double your money!

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            • $L!mBo
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              $41 over here!!

            • Winklebottom
              Winklebottom commented
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              42 and a cool patch!
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