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Old 02-03-2013, 12:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Out of the attic #67

So I pulled out my old mag #67, and gave it a fresh new look. It's been in the attic for 10+ yrs. It's more user friendly and so much lighter. Was 4.8 lbs as shown, now 2.4 lbs as shown.

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Old 02-03-2013, 01:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So cool. Both setup look rad.
What is the deal with the serial engraving? Looks like it was engraved over? Like there was a 4 under the 7?
And was Farside sponsored by AGD or did you just buy one early on?
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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whats hiding under the tape on the valve?
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My question also.

That, and is there a weird double exposure, or have the serials been modified?

Looks like a different set of numbers have been engraved under/over the laser engraving on both halves of the valve. The reg at least looks like it has 'CF00184' underneath the lasering.

EDIT: Oops. Didn't catch that Bacci already asked.

An interesting piece, to be sure!
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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With that low of a number. It's probably a lvl 5 valve.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So . . .

Any light to be shed on those serials?
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ok, questions questions.
first, there is nothing under the tape. just a classic valve.
second, yes dan, farside was a sponsored team back then. swarm and farside had the prototype and first run stuff from agd. we would see updates and new ideas frequently, and test them. tom would come to the field(challenge park) and play as well with experimental stuff. i have a lot of things that we made and modified at agd. i have sixpac #22 as well.
third, and the hard question. yes the serial numbers are definetly changed. something i never noticed in 20yrs of having that valve untill i took that pic. underneath the lasering is stamped #184 on both halves. agd started there serial numbers at 101. now i know that all the level 5 valves were "recalled" and replaced with level 7's. i do know that many 5's were converted to 7's. i believe that most customers recieved new level 7 valves, not there old ones refurbished. this particular valve was a trashcan valve. my teammate and good friend who worked for agd at the time, "rescued" this from the crusher. it did not meet agd's quality control and was supossed to be destoyed. my friend liberated it from the can, cleaned it up and rebuilt it for me to use, as i did not curently have a mag at the time. even with the sponsorship at that time, it still would have cost me, i think $150? for a mag.
so i dont know if it was #84 lvl 5, or #67 lvl 7? or if the number was changed to hide the fact that it shouldnt exist any more. it is not the prettiest valve but does work fantasticly.
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Great story Adam. I dont think AGD restart serials so regardless it started as a lvl 5. Sounds like what may have happened, after it was fixed it was resealed since AGD had listed it as destroyed? I think if the valves weren't replaced they were welded/sealed shut? I have I think 181 that was threaded/sealed up.
Thanks for sharing!
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well while your talking about all this vintage AGD stuff where are the rest of the pics lol. MCB loves old stuff freaking tear the attic apart lol.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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OF,

That's some interesting provenance, indeed! Thank you for sharing.

Love these little pieces of history. Maybe your friend had it lasered? Or an older batch was lasered over and this one wasn't prepped/finished properly? Either way, I'd be surprised if this isn't an L5. Indeed, if memory serves, this could be something even older, as TK let out older versions privately for testing before the L5 was made public. So who knows? A friend who works for the company? An older valve that has clearly passed through two completely different types of numbering sequences? The re-numbering could mean all manner of stuff. Maybe some of the older levels that passed muster were refitted and re-numbered, and this was intended for that end. It's particularly telling that the top, final method of numbering is lower than the original engraved/stamped method number.

This might have started life as an L3 or L4. Or even earlier.

Would love to have some of the AGD historians here weigh in on this.

Really cool stuff here.
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