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[Pepper]

I'm still considered a noob when it comes to Mags. How is it that I see some Rt-Mag setups that use micro lines. My Micromag RT runs @1200 psi, that would blow a Micro line, right?

Also, I'm looking for some air fitting that pivot, and can hold 1200psi.

Also I have a old style SP tank and reg. Mags have a reg built into the valve, I should be able to "open" up the SP reg and just use the Mag reg?



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[Z-man]

Macro lines not Micro but the point still stands. The plastic lines are not rated for much over 800 I think. How do people use them? Simple, we just risk it. Just like a 4500psi tank will not explode if you fill it to 6 or 7000psi (do NOT do this), the macro line rated for 800psi might not blow till 14-1600psi. To protect themselves from our litigious society where the manufacturer is always at fault for the stupidity of the consumer.

So when someone use macroline and it blows up after being left in the sun all day at 1500psi the company can say "look its only rated for 800psi and we made that very clear. Look it took nearly 2x that pressure before it finally failed. We did everything we could to cover for people going a bit over but this guy went way over."

Course the company would still lose...

Anyhow that is it basically. That line will take a lot more than its rated. I ran my RT and SFL with Macroline for the better part of 3 years at pressures around 900-1200psi and never had one blow on me. Does NOT mean it won't happen to you and yes if you were being responsible and prudent you would get SS hose for that.

[Uranus]

I thought there was more then one type of macro line.

[Z-man]

To my knowledge there is macro line and micro line.

Micro line is small small small stuff that you used to be able to pick up in the late 90's and into the 2000's for a bit. It's largely gone now because it was considered restrictive on airflow but more significant it was really weak stuff and prone to breaking / failing

Macro line is just larger diameter and thicker walled (please someone correct me if this is not the case. There are different names and colors but it's all the same stuff.

[Pepper]

I forgot about the 2x to 3x psi on Macro, thanks.
What about the on bottle reg and pivot fittings?

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by Pepper

I forgot about the 2x to 3x psi on Macro, thanks.
What about the on bottle reg and pivot fittings?

The plastic macroline is the weakest part of the whole equation. The metal fittings will fail at higher pressures than the plastic. One thing you can do to help cut down the risk is to replace the macroline now and then. Over time being in the sun and use, the plastic hardens and becomes inflexible. At that point I usually cut a new piece.

Using that Max-Flo you should have no trouble getting into the rapid-fire world of the Mag. Just make sure you have a hopper to keep up or you will have soup on your hands.

[going_home]

I hate those steel braided hoses.
All I use is macroline.
However all macroline is NOT created equal.
I only use black because it has the highest rating, and have only had one blow once.
If you take them on and off too much they can tend not lock into the fitting correctly and can blow out of the fitting, but snipping about 3/8" off will usually fix that.

By popular demand, now available in color. Our color macroline is much more flexible than our black macroline, but is also rated for a much lower pressure (we only recommend it for use with LP output air systems).

Black macroline specs:

* Black Nylon-12
* .150" ID
* .250" OD
* .050" wall
* 1000 psi working pressure (3000 psi burst)
* 0.5" bend radius

Color macroline specs:

* Red or blue Nylon-12
* .170" ID
* .250" OD
* .040" wall
* 450 psi working pressure (1350 psi burst)
* 0.5" bend radius

Taken from :

ASP Online Store: Macroline hose

[Pepper]

I used this marker setup at the last D-Day. I'm always out shooting the hopper, but luckily I have a LvL-10 bolt.

My question about the Mag reg was- Can I open the SP reg all the way and just use the Mag reg, I'm thinking that should be fine.

What about the pivot fittings, I have some aluminum ones on it now, they don't last long.

[Z-man]

Nice Link Going_Home. Glad to see that there is more to it. Incidentally I usually used black though I see I was using blue on the RT Pro I spent all my time Rapid-firing.

I never concerned myself with the macroline bursting. I screwed the reg in as high as I could get the pressure to go frequently. Get yourself a Halo or (if you want to spend the big money) a Rotor seems to really pull its weight. And of course these is the QLoader if it fits your play style.

[Corran Horn]

Originally Posted by going_home

I hate those steel braided hoses.
All I use is macroline.

You mean "Micromag-Scratchers"?