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Old 05-14-2007, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about undersize paint balls.

Question about undersize paint balls.

I am wondering is it's just my imagination or are all these Wal-Mart / Canadian tire cheap brand X paintball undersized. I have purchased these type of paint balls because they're cheap but they always seem to be rolling down the barrel of almost every gun that I have.

But I also noticed and this same problem with the brand X paint balls that you get at the field. I had the same problem with a Tippman 68 carbine as well.
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Old 05-14-2007, 03:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wal Mart or Paintball pro shop mart, paintballs are too small.
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Old 05-14-2007, 04:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Most are, nowadays. Standard used to be .688-.69, now it's not unusual for them to roll straight through .684 inserts.

I think they're using the same molds and the shells are simply better material than they used to be, and thus don't swell up as much after the fact.

If it's really causing a problem, get a barrel sizer (I think Lapco still makes them), or barrel kit of your choice (I like the Python), or even try out a Phantom detent set or drop an O-ring in before screwing the barrel on. Or send your favorite barrel to PPS for wedgits, which themselves make the stock Blazer barrels too nice to replace.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes paint is smaller then it used to be. This weekend is the first time in months that I did not use 0.679 insert (and there are times I still had roll outs) and only got up to a 0.684. It used to be I never used small inserts and only the 0.689 and larger ones.
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I think everyone on this forum has issue of one kind or another with modern paint.

Its smaller, and has a thinner shell. Older paintguns were made for larger paint, and thicker shells.

10-15 years ago, .690-692 was standard. Now, .682-686 seems more common. Modern guns have all adapted.

Sometimes you can make the smaller paint work just by adjusting the detent. Like bending the wire slightly. Or maybe drillint it out a bit larger for a bigger ball? or adding a 2nd detent? Or try adding a dab of nail-polish into the breech (for open-bolts), or barrel (closed bolts).

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Old 05-14-2007, 12:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I especially have problems with pump action guns

I especially have problems with pump action guns because once the ball is chambered then it has a tendency to roll. It is probably less of problem with my semi-automatic guns.

And some of these pump action guns don't have detents either which compounds the problem.
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Think about it.
Paintballs used to sell for 25 cents each.(circa 1986)Then 7.5 cents a ball.(circa 1998) Now they are selling for 1.5-3 cents each.
If you make each ball a little smaller you'll save money. Sure on a case you'll save maybe 20 cents to a buck, but multiply that by millions of cases...........hmmmm?
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Id bay 15 dollars extra case for paintballs in .687 caliber. 75 dollars for actually premium paintballs would be well worth the cost.
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Hmmm. The only paint smaller than .686 that I use consistently is Visable Impact(used to be scorch) from wally world. There .684-.685ish. $40 a case and it shoots great out of my tippy's. But my Montneels get poor accuracy with them(my smallest bore z barrel is .688) and seem more likely to chop with smaller paint.

But PMI, Sterling, and the Patriots(cabella's purchase, and they were surprisingly good) I recently tried were all .686-.687. The new paint at EMR seems to be pretty consistent at .686. I guess were pretty luck here in the Northeast. I'd kill for some consistent .688 though.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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From previous threads on MCB, we've deduced that paintballs are smaller (.680-.682 not uncommon) now because:

1) they're less expensive to make
2) they will feed faster into the electro guns that are common today.
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