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Old 12-17-2012, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ion reg on co2

So I have a mech ion, otherwise all stock. Just wondering if any of you have experience with consistency of shooting one with regular non-anti-siphon co2. Probably would put a angled asa on there. Just looking for a lightweight setup for my wife that doesn't need a large hpa tank. I don't really want to get a 13cu either since the tiny amount of shots and having to pay $8 all day air for it to. A 9oz would give her plenty of shots.
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with non anti siphone that could get nasty. liquid CO2 would eat the seals in the reg and it won't have consistency at all especially on hot days. A great lightweight setup if you have one available is a 50/45 tank and couple it with a revvy on top and you're good to go. What I would recommend if you're going to run non anti siphone is look into a palmers stabilizer reg. They are built for C02 and will give you a consistent marker on it.
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thanks, that's what I needed to know. At this point my wife rarely plays and isn't super interested, but I want something light weight and inexpensive. So I'll probably pass on the hpa tank. I've got a two stab's on my cocker and blazer, but have't put co2 through them yet. Most of my tanks are out of date and my 7oz Sport's authority won't fill since it doesn't have a date stamp. Their policy even though it falls under the 2x2 rule.

perhaps I'll look into getting a fatty stabilizer for the ion.
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with non anti siphone that could get nasty. liquid CO2 would eat the seals in the reg and it won't have consistency at all especially on hot days. A great lightweight setup if you have one available is a 50/45 tank and couple it with a revvy on top and you're good to go. What I would recommend if you're going to run non anti siphone is look into a palmers stabilizer reg. They are built for C02 and will give you a consistent marker on it.
Which seals, exactly?
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Although I do not run C02 on my pump ion. I know a few people who do, and have not had any issues.
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Could get a vibe/SP-1/that range of guns reg. pressure relief valve built in for co2 use and is most probably cheaper and would fit with the aesthetics.
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Which seals, exactly?
The poppet seal and the base seal.

I run a vibe reg on one of my Impulses, and a 12 oz non anti-siphon tank. In winter. NO LPR. I have had 0 issues. The built in overpressure relief has never felt the need to release either.
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I guess if it works more power to ya . I'm just thinking that under somewhat higher rates of fire (say 8ps or more sustained) that you'd get issues with freezing and the reg might have a real issue with consistency at those ROF's if it's a slower paced game where you're shooting short 3 shot burts or just popping a round or 2 every 20-30 seconds then yea C02 is fine. i just figure why not put on a fatty stab on it and eliminate the issue entirely
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I guess if it works more power to ya . I'm just thinking that under somewhat higher rates of fire (say 8ps or more sustained) that you'd get issues with freezing and the reg might have a real issue with consistency at those ROF's if it's a slower paced game where you're shooting short 3 shot burts or just popping a round or 2 every 20-30 seconds then yea C02 is fine. i just figure why not put on a fatty stab on it and eliminate the issue entirely
True, I forgot to mention I use a pocket hopper and only shoot 2-3 bps max.

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Just to add a few facts to the discussion.

If you're going to use CO2, it's recommended to use the Vibe / SP1 reg because, no matter which reg you use (to include Palmers), there is a reasonable chance that liquid will get past the reg and once it does, and warms up (from ambient air temps), it will first increase the chance of hot shot and if it gets warm enough, it will damage to the solenoid and, internal hoses. The Vibe/SP1 reg prevents this from happening through the use of a downstream overpressure bleed.

A 13/3K on an Ion platform should be good for about 100shots if you didn't know that already.

A 45/4.5K isn't heavy/bulky at all, a lot of women even prefer the 50ci models as they tend to be just the right size (in terms of bulk/length). However, a slimmer, smaller tank is on the horizon, just bug PaintballGateway.com to bring their pump / snake player's tank to market.
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