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Old 05-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this safe???

the owner of the proshop said it was okay to play with it,and that these bottles can have this and it's in hydro.


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Old 05-07-2013, 02:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's just a crack in the clear coat... The same thing has been happening to almost all of the Ninja tanks that have come out in the last six months or so upon the first fill. I know Ninja is replacing their tanks for free, I imagine Empire/Kee would do the same thing.

Judging by the graphics, that's a much newer tank, probably the same vintage as the Ninjas that've had the same problem. It's possible that the bottles are made on the same production line with the same bad batch of resin.

For what it's worth, that will not effect the strength of the internal metal bottle or the carbonfiber wrapping it, unless the carbonfiber starts to unravel in the cracks where it's exposed, which is not likely to occur if you keep it in a tank cover and don't beat the piss out of it. Many players at my field have been using them with the same cracks.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like the same thing that's plagued the black Ninja tanks as of late. It's a crack in the gel coat, nothing more. It doesn't affect the fiber wrap nor the strength of the tank itself. It's safe to play with.

That said, Ninja has been offering to exchange their tanks with cracked gel coats. A call to Empire explaining your concerns might net the same result.


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Old 05-07-2013, 06:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have to admit that i have had close to 20 of the same tanks over the years and have never seen this issue before...I doubt the hydro testers here would pass it or even bother to test it(im at Hendrick Hydro picking up and dropping off tanks once a week and seen them deny hydro for a lot less).. I sure as heck would not sell it as im sure most shops would salvage the reg and toss the bottle..Looks like an exspanion crack to me..
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Judging by the graphics, that's a much newer tank, probably the same vintage as the Ninjas that've had the same problem.
02/2012 is there on the bottle, so its decently newerishy. Like others have said, looks to be just the gel coat, but they may replace it for free, an email costs nothing.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I had a tank exactly like that, mine did the same thing. I would send it back to empire and get a new tank.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:19 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The ones from that period did that. It isn't supposed to be dangerous, but it is crappy and should be replaced under MFG warranty.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Im going to highly doubt anyone would fill it except for the shop thats trying to sell it to you...Im just saying.....
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Oh yeah and I'd never buy one that looks like that.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They just need to quit putting that stupid coating on tanks. It's happened across quite a few manufacturers. That one looks like crap and is most likely not a safety issue but it's impossible to tell if the bottle is actually compromised. I personally wouldn't ever fill one or use one that looked like that.
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