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Riverraider90 01-22-2007 11:49 PM

SMG-60 serial #?
Anybody here know the history of SMG-60 serial numbers? I know a lot of them had a number plate attached to the side. But what about the very earliest? I just bought one, mint NIB with "DT 21"` stamped in front of the trigger guard.

c6quad 01-22-2007 11:58 PM

was this the one from ebay a week or two ago?

if it is, that's probably the 21st SMG made.

before the side plates, Tippmann stamped the #'s in front of the trigger guards.

Riverraider90 01-23-2007 12:08 AM

Yes, it was on ebay last week. I pulled it out of the box, ran some CO2 thru it, called a friend at G-Force PB in ST. Louis and we came to the same conclusion; that it is the 21st. Promptly put it back in the box! :eek: Looks like it only had paint thru it once. Figured I'd ask around here; i'll probably email Ben Tippmann and ask him.

Painthappy 01-23-2007 12:16 AM

I actually have a long list... Actually the LETTERS changed along with the numbers...

I'll look that up for you.

c6quad 01-23-2007 12:19 AM

nice buy man. i was watching that one myself.

i would put money on it that that is the 21st SMG. it has the very old cast butt plate, external air-line too. that's a collectable piece for sure.

you should post some more pics. i'd love to see them.

please post what you find out Carter.

Al Ray 01-23-2007 12:20 AM

Pictures would help. Serial numbers alone dont offer much of anything. There were a few dealers of the SMG that modified them (HTI (IIRC thats what they were called) comes to mind) There should be some small differences between early SMGs and later ones, particularly in the valve area and grip/asa area.

"DT" however does raise some questions. What does that stand for? My best guess would be Dennis Tippmann. Its tough to say for shure with out pictures.

c6quad 01-23-2007 12:29 AM

a difference that i've seen in early SMG's were the trigger springs. the earlier guns used torsion springs on the triggers and the later models used a compression spring.

Painthappy 01-23-2007 12:47 AM

Hmm... Don't know now... My resources has SMG's with HT and HR for the early external lines.

Don't know about that one... Sorry. Nor do I know the meaning behind the Letters and why the different letters. They may have changed them with the years, or whatnot, but we never tracked down what exactly.

Either way, it's a cool low number, and a mint looking gun!


Riverraider90 01-23-2007 03:47 PM

I spoke to Dennis Tippmann Jr. today, who told me that the initials and number meant that his dad put the gun together in 86' and it was the 21st smg-60 built. So I guess that I lucked out on the gun. I looked up the old APG article on vintagerex and discovered that pretty much everything that came with it back then was still in the box. As for pics, I'll try to get some more up...but I'll have it with me at G-Force PB in Fairview Heights, IL on Saturday the 27th if anyone wants to see it. Mark and Glenn of G-force have tons of old school goodies. So come by for old school chumminess. :D

Obviously it'll be a little of a drive for some of you...

Al Ray 01-24-2007 09:04 PM

So then were "HT" and "HR" peoples initials

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