Able to cock Phantom without air?

BassDude · 02-03-2012, 04:28 PM

Hey everyone,

I was messing around with my Phantom today, and I put two #10 washers in the valve to give the valve spring some extra compression. Then I put in the blue main spring from CCI and found I could cock the gun without air in it. What does this mean? Is it good or bad?

Just trying to learn more about the Phantom, its workings, and Nelsons in general.

georgeyew · 02-03-2012, 05:21 PM

With the extra pressure on the valve springs, your velocity may not be high enough with the blue main spring.

lechooch · 02-03-2012, 05:24 PM

That is normal if you make the valve spring stiffer. Like the poster above me said, you may or may not achieve desirable playing velocity.

BassDude · 02-03-2012, 05:25 PM

Yeah. That's what I was thinking too. However, I am putting a Lapco #6 powertube in, so maybe it will be enough?

Merely speculation...

fatkid · 02-04-2012, 05:06 PM

I'm running a blue main spring and a stock valve spring. Last weekend we played at an indoor with a field limit at 260 fps. I had to put a #10 washer in the the valve body as well. With my tpc flush I was shooting 250/260 with 12ies. I think you should be ok.

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BassDude Active Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Able to cock Phantom without air? Hey everyone, I was messing around with my Phantom today, and I put two #10 washers in the valve to give the valve spring some extra compression. Then I put in the blue main spring from CCI and found I could cock the gun without air in it. What does this mean? Is it good or bad? Just trying to learn more about the Phantom, its workings, and Nelsons in general.

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fatkid MCB Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ashland OH,	I'm running a blue main spring and a stock valve spring. Last weekend we played at an indoor with a field limit at 260 fps. I had to put a #10 washer in the the valve body as well. With my tpc flush I was shooting 250/260 with 12ies. I think you should be ok. __________________ Justin my feedbackhttp://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

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02-03-2012, 05:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
georgeyew Active Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northern VA	With the extra pressure on the valve springs, your velocity may not be high enough with the blue main spring.

02-03-2012, 05:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
BassDude Active Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Yeah. That's what I was thinking too. However, I am putting a Lapco #6 powertube in, so maybe it will be enough? Merely speculation...