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Old 07-24-2014, 10:23 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Adjusted the pump arm all the way out and still did nothing.

As for your diemsions can you show me where you are getting your diemensions from.

Oh yea it is the back bottle valve.
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Old 07-24-2014, 12:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1406219794.436902.jpg
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Size:  218.0 KB photo 1;about 0.96"

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Size:  250.2 KB photo 2; about 0.294"

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Size:  265.8 KB photo 3; about 0.25"

Sorry forgot the .2 in my first post, I will edit.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Here is what i came up with
Photo1: 1.990
Photo2: .287
Photo3: .252

So they seem pretty close.

By removing the rear frame thumb screw and adding a a flat head bolt, so it has the taper on it and that seems to hold it in place, and i only end up with a 1/64" gap. And pumps much easier.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:58 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That's a creative way to fix that. I'm surprised that such small changes can make a difference. And once again I seem to be incapable of reading a caliper today. My first picture as any one can see measures 1.96" not 0.96. Tried to edit but my ap keeps crashing, sorry about that.

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Old 07-24-2014, 04:35 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Send it into Mike. He'll fix it.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I already sent an e-mail to Mike and he replied:

An 1/64” gap is normal from the end of the breech to the shoulder of the air adapter to allow for the machine hole tolerances. However, 1/32 is excessive and it could be either insert locations or frame holes combined. I would have to have it to determine where the wear or location discrepancies in the parts are. Regarding cocking the mechanism. The location of the power tube determines the position of the hammer to latch onto the bolt. If you have replaced the seal or over tightened the cup seal assembly on the power tube it will move the hammer resting position rearward thus making it difficult to cock. Backing the cup seal or replacing a swollen seal allowing the power tube to move forward a 1/64” or slightly more which will allow the bolt to latch sooner in the rearward motion of the pump. Also check the frame rod slot for a burr at the stop pin, just cut or file the burr smooth.



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Old 07-27-2014, 12:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Thought: perhaps someone tried drilling out the forward grip frame screw in order to mount the frame to another Nelson, since the Phantom's forward grip frame bolt is 8-32 and a lot of Nelsons use 10-32 for both front and rear. I did this when I made my Trracer/Phantom hybrid.

When I put the Phantom back together, I noticed there was some play in body, with it able to slide around a little, but it didn't create the problems you're describing. It still bugged me, and I found a workaround by putting some shrink wrap tubing around the part of the forward grip frame screw that contacts the hole in the frame. That locked everything down nice and tight.
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Nope it is still all black if someone did drill it out i am sure the metal would be showing.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:15 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i had this problem and not sure if is the correct fix but it did work for me. mine the cocking rod seemed to be bottoming out on the roll pin thats pressed into the trigger frame i filed a little off the bend on the back of the cocking rod and it works great now
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i had this problem and not sure if is the correct fix but it did work for me. mine the cocking rod seemed to be bottoming out on the roll pin thats pressed into the trigger frame i filed a little off the bend on the back of the cocking rod and it works great now
do you have a 1/32" gap between the valve and main body tube?
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