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Old 07-21-2006, 02:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Is a remilled version. It's from the same company that makes the overlord. I'm not sure of the differences other than cosmetic milling, but some people prefer it over the overlord. I dont get to test out the markers unless I buy them and keep them, so testing is to a minium.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:42 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Ah, i see. I have used the overlord and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. One problem with it though, you have to use Brass Eagle cartridges to have them come out coorectly, they have a different neck. Also, the dropout on the CO2 chamber would be quite handy.
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:37 AM   #33 (permalink)
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This is sort of OT, but still deals with RAP, does the T68 pistol seem to resemble the overlord to you guys?
If you look at their Black Bird pistol, it is a Tiberious 8.
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/black-b...ol-p-1698.html

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http://www.rap4.com/paintball/forum/...ic,9595.0.html
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Old 07-21-2006, 09:51 AM   #34 (permalink)
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The black bird is just the Tiberious 8 with an upgrade, higher FPS basically for military and law enforcement.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:42 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Further more... As NetSurferDude said, they stole his idea, and it's built in China.
I'm not to keen on that. I'll pass.
His and almost every pump players ideas...

Or wait, wanst there a bottom feeding nelson once? then I guess it isnt all that original, is it?
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:46 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah a few of us have drawn that up before....hell I was talking to Punisher once and I said "I have this idea for one of those bodies you have"... and he wrote back "an under the barrel spring feed "... yeah it's been thought of.

I have another similar idea floating around but it isn't as practical as this new gun... this may be the way to go if you are looking for something like this...although a longer feed tube than 10 would be nice... especially if longer barrels are an option. Even 15 would be a plus!

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Old 07-21-2006, 11:42 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Don't bash their stuff just because it's made in China before you get your hands on one. I'm excited about this gun, as its fundamentally different from any other pump being manufactured presently. It looks like it'll be both functionally and aesthetically pleasing - an under the barrel ball feed has always been something I've wanted, so kudos to these guys for getting it made and out there. When's the last time someone came out with a mil-sim pump, anyways?
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You make a good point russc, but i think the reason for a lack of milsim pumps, is well, there is kinda of a lack of military pumps!
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His and almost every pump players ideas...

Or wait, wanst there a bottom feeding nelson once? then I guess it isnt all that original, is it?
^ Ask me and I'll tell you ALL nelson's are bottom feeders. . . : )

Don't think there is a single one of us who hasn't tinkered with the idea of a bottom tube fed pump. I probably have a whole notebook full of drawings. I had finally settled on the idea of making the reciever using a sandwich of brass plates soldered together to eliminate the difficulty of trying to internally mill the tracks needed to guide the feed carriage. Guess I won't have to bother now.

As for made in China. Mixed feelings there. I'm not really concerned about quality problems. They have come a long way since that poor double barrelled VM clone they made a few years ago. But I am bugged by the fact that they are basically produced with slave labor in a country where speaking your mind will get you shot. Still, I don't let that stop me from buying Chinese made products. Its practically unavoidable anymore because next to nothing anyone needs is made in the U.S. We've outsourced everything worthwhile to other countries.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:28 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Yep, the sad reality of globalization. Fortunately, all the hometown favorites (Sheridan, CCI, Palmer's, AGD) never sold out. And as for there not being many mil-sim pumps...I really didn't think of it that way! Give me a pump action M-249 anyday.
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