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Old 05-20-2011, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Definition of a Pump

What is the Definition of a Pump Marker ???

I ask because I had a idea. Which I'm sure someone has thought about this too.

Let take a Spyder and make into a pump. First thing everybody wants to do it change the valve to stop it on becoming a semi. Right ??
Well let not. Keep the valve setup the same as a semi but disconnect bolt from the hammer and put a pump handle on the bolt only.

Air would re-cock the hammer but by pumping the bolt back out only let one ball in at a time.

Would this still qualify it as a pump ???

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Old 05-20-2011, 09:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Could you still pull the trigger multiple times to release bursts of air? Not that it would do anything, just curious.
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah, same deal as MQ pumps and these SSC Ego pumps. I personally don't think they're quite as elegant as a normal pump, but that's a matter of opinion.
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Could you still pull the trigger multiple times to release bursts of air? Not that it would do anything, just curious.
Yes, it would be like a semi but the bolt is moved manual.

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You gotta move a part of the gun at least .68 of an inch. I say a pump!
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Old 05-20-2011, 09:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah same here. As long as you need a full .68 pump travel per shot it belongs into the pump category in my opinion.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've always been told that the bolt is the key to a pump.
Manually open and close the bolt w/o any other assist.
Never heard about how the hammer should operate.

But this thread is still young.......
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Well, let's see. MQ pumps are still pumps, right? This is the same principle, just less refined mechanically. You have to pull the trigger to shoot, and then can't shoot again until you complete a separate action. I say pump, just with a wicked light pump stroke.
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Pump Mags are a good example of a pump semi thingy. The action cycles but you have to reset the bolt.
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In my mind - the pump must chamber the ball, and recock the marker without assistance.

If you only chamber the ball by pumping it - it is not a pump.

If you only re-cock the marker by pumping it - it is not a pump.


I think of this like a pump shotgun. It both recocks the shotgun, and chambers the round.

If you can fire the marker repeatedly without pumping it - it is not a pump.

To me, many markers depend on if you deem loading a spring to be essential to it being a pump.

P-mag's require you to chamber a ball (or allow a ball to fall into a chamber) and reset the marker to be fired. But you are not loading a spring.

MQ'd pumps require you to chamber a ball - but do not reset the marker to fire. I disagree with Diomedes here - you can fire again without pumping - you just cannot fire a ball. It, to my mind, is not a pump.

PA'd pumps are just auto cockers that toggle the 4 way with a pump handle. They are the least pump-like of the breed.

With all of that said - I really don't care what I play with or against - pumps are hard enough to play with - so they all 'count' in my book - but some are not pure pumps.

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