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Old 10-06-2012, 11:26 AM   #111 (permalink)
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the discussion was about high end and imho highend cars are build by hand and standarts way over the top.

btw a royce, bentley etc... are no cars for me, would money be no issue a mercedes 540K from 1934
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #112 (permalink)
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a high end mercedes would be the S series, E series are some better than middle class, but not real high end. seen only in stock configuration, without tuning (amg, brabus etc...)

if you really mean high end, it would be something like a maybach, bentley, rolls royce or aston martin ...
I think this might highlight the discussion.

Remember the Cobra Angel from paintball back in the day. Some people decided an Angel (at its peak) was not high end enough.
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I think this might highlight the discussion.

Remember the Cobra Angel from paintball back in the day. Some people decided an Angel (at its peak) was not high end enough.
Well, you assume that there's only 3 levels of gear. It's really more like 5 or 6.

Intro, Low, Mid, High, Ultra High, and Luxury is how I think about it.

Roughly speaking (and no where near complete) in the semi auto maybe ramping setting...
Intro has your plastic walmart stuff.

Low is your basic blowbacks.

Mid gets you electros, but they tend to be missing something. So doesn't have clamping feedneck or on/off ASA, or has plastic grip frame, and so on.

High has all the bells and whistles. Could be called "tournament ready", though most Mids will perform similarly.

Ultra High is the same as high, but you get fancier milling, the limited edition color selection, even more bells and whistles that aren't totally needed but people want anyways (OLED screens and the like), and a few more experimental performance tweaks. You start to get into the realm of diminishing returns.

Luxury goes one step beyond that, and gets into things that are added just to make the gun more expensive and exclusive.

Now the issue is that for some, where I'd draw the distinction of "Mid", "High", and "Ultra High" they think more "Mid", "Upper Mid", and then "High".
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:38 AM   #114 (permalink)
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my scale:

entry -> just for fun, if its broken theres no money wasted (ie walmart)
low/mid/upper -> those you can buy at your paintballshop
high end -> guns designed and modified to meet specially your requirements (rate of fire etc...)
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:06 AM   #115 (permalink)
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I once bought a devilmag. Custom built gun, extremely exclusive, built to my specifications - as high end of a paintball marker as you could get IMO.

My DM5 at the time was more functional....
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:03 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Why do we rank guns on a scale that is relative to those that are tournament-ready? It seems like a moot point in present day of paintball, what with the decline of that style of play and the overall improvement in gun quality across the board.

I also don't understand why the Axe isn't "tournament ready" out of the box. If it can shoot consistently with the ROF and modes that are required for the ruleset being played, it's tournament ready. Sounds like some people are trying to justify $1000+ price tags for guns.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #117 (permalink)
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the question of the ask is not whether is it tourny ready or not, it is if the axe is "high end"
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:37 PM   #118 (permalink)
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I was referencing later discussion that the Axe was not comparable to tournament level guns, sorry.
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