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Old 10-13-2012, 08:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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school me on todays loaders

When I last played the empire B was all that. I think im a bit out of date
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I still see people rockin' the Halo B... I think the Dye"rotor" is the next best thing. I have also just come back though, that's just what I see circulating around the web lately.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey now have the Dye Rotor (180 new), Empire Prophecy and the new Aspire loader by Virtue
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dye Rotor: Smallish capacity (can get larger shell to hold 250 or so total), takes 3xAA batteries. One button operation plus unjamming trigger. Low profile and sleek, durable materials. Can change color accents, speed feeds must be specifically designed for the Rotor. Way too expensive (IMO). $189

Empire Prophecy: The evolution of the Halo, the balance is about the same (slightly back heavy) and has a rip clip. Modular design, can change out nose cone to increase or decrease capacity/size. Also way too expensive (IMO). $169

Pinokio: Lightweight, large capacity (230 standard, 400 with extended nose), runs on 2x 9v. Uses a bend sensor to detect when paint is being fed rather than eyes, and it is not a force fed hopper like the Rotor and Prophecy. Advantages; it can't jam (paint will just spin in the raceway if the ball stack is full), very gentle on paint. Disadvantages... well, some people say it's too tall. I personally love it, and it is my go to hopper. Price is reasonable when compared to Rotor and Prophecy. $125

Virtue Spire: New kid on the block. I haven't played with one myself, but it looks very promising - like a gentler version of the rotor with less of a tendency to be a blender... but not any cheaper. $179
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Dye Rotor: Smallish capacity (can get larger shell to hold 250 or so total), takes 3xAA batteries. One button operation plus unjamming trigger. Low profile and sleek, durable materials. Can change color accents, speed feeds must be specifically designed for the Rotor. Way too expensive (IMO). $189

Empire Prophecy: The evolution of the Halo, the balance is about the same (slightly back heavy) and has a rip clip. Modular design, can change out nose cone to increase or decrease capacity/size. Also way too expensive (IMO). $169

Pinokio: Lightweight, large capacity (230 standard, 400 with extended nose), runs on 2x 9v. Uses a bend sensor to detect when paint is being fed rather than eyes, and it is not a force fed hopper like the Rotor and Prophecy. Advantages; it can't jam (paint will just spin in the raceway if the ball stack is full), very gentle on paint. Disadvantages... well, some people say it's too tall. I personally love it, and it is my go to hopper. Price is reasonable when compared to Rotor and Prophecy. $125

Virtue Spire: New kid on the block. I haven't played with one myself, but it looks very promising - like a gentler version of the rotor with less of a tendency to be a blender... but not any cheaper. $179
yup i'd say spot on

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Valken Vmaxx - Cheap, lid pops open too easy, not as fast of a feeder compared to Rotor/Spire

I have a spire and rotor, love them both, i think the rotor batteries last longer than the spire, but i havnt had a spire long enough to 100% verify that
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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there is nothing wrong with rocking an older loader. heck I run a revvy most of the time if I need the feed speed (which is rarely) I have a loudmouth Torque 150 that'll feed just as fast as any loader out there only con is because it's a constant on with a slip clutch design it eats 9V's for lunch. With that said I'm working a trade to acquire 2 halo B's so I'll probably use those as my main loaders. I guess my point is that unless you're playing tournaments most force feed loaders aren't needed. I agree with CJ in that most single battery 9V loaders are more than enough for the average player and with tournaments moving to lower bps caps even a basic force feeder like a Halo B is almost un needed. Only advantage it provides against a revvy or something of that ilk is you're not relying on gravity to feed the ball into the breech but that's a moot point when you're only shooting 10-12bps caps anyways.
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there is nothing wrong with rocking an older loader. heck I run a revvy most of the time if I need the feed speed (which is rarely) I have a loudmouth Torque 150 that'll feed just as fast as any loader out there only con is because it's a constant on with a slip clutch design it eats 9V's for lunch. With that said I'm working a trade to acquire 2 halo B's so I'll probably use those as my main loaders. I guess my point is that unless you're playing tournaments most force feed loaders aren't needed. I agree with CJ in that most single battery 9V loaders are more than enough for the average player and with tournaments moving to lower bps caps even a basic force feeder like a Halo B is almost un needed. Only advantage it provides against a revvy or something of that ilk is you're not relying on gravity to feed the ball into the breech but that's a moot point when you're only shooting 10-12bps caps anyways.
i agree that almost any hopper can work for a tourny

but the newer hoppers are MUCH better on battery life, and both the rotor and spire have tooless field stripping that can be stripped in seconds

i'll take those features over a halo that is like 10 screws to take apart and eats 6 AA's a day....
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I wish revys were readily available again without having to wait and search for used ones. I have 3 halos, 2 with broken feed necks and all with broken battery lids. I picked up a cheap fasta or something like that only to find out that it is always on which eats batteries and the noise is disturbing. I wish I knew which cheap loaders were sensored and which ones were always on.
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Maybe try spending a little more money and get a reliable loader?
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thats a fair comment....

i stopped using halo's because the shells always imploaded on themselves
i spent a little more cash, bought a rotor and was a happy camper
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Not really, I had a rotor and didn't like the color, do I sold it and I was going to wait for then to drop in cash, the next week they went up 50 bucks... Last month I picked up a vmax and called valken and got a new board and I have been extremely happy. Spent 35 and now I use my halo w/ v35 got backup. You dont have to spend a ton to get a decent loader, I think it was just meant as a high schoolish remark
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