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Old 11-26-2012, 06:59 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I guess that I am wondering why you want to limit this idea so much. You haven't given any reason as to why to not allow people to use a Cocker or Mag, beyond you just don't want to. I can see the logic of not allowing a Tippmann A5 or X7 if you are concerned that the Cyclone feed allows a more rapid firing of the marker, that other stuff can't compete with unless they have a force feed hopper of some sort. But what reasons do you have for not allowing someone to shoot a non-RTed Mag? I guess that I missed that, if you said it.
See first post in this thread for a couple of my reasons. Also see posts #8, #19, #23, #38, #42, and #57.

As for "You just done want to..."
There is a bit more to it than that, but basically you're on target. No one has ever done a blow-back only anything (other than Spyder cup). There are a lot of cool blow-backs out there. Read the entire thread again, there is logic to the selection of Blow-back mechs.

In my too-many-beers dream world, my ideal tourney is 50-ball hopper, unlimited paint, any gun you like, but all you get is a single 12gram per game (individually numbered and handed to each player as he walks onto the field). So, in effect, I have broadened my scope quite a bit.

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Also, I would think that you would want to make this pretty broad, to attract as many people as possible. I can't see a person wanting to fail with an idea like this, it is such a good idea.
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Actually, I would rather see you succeed. I would rather that this becomes a model that is followed by others and spreads. Hence, don't make so many limitations, unless there is a logical reason. Not a matter of what you like.
yeah... not gonna work. Like I said - post a threat about what you have in mind, make it happen. I promise not to troll you.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #122 (permalink)
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There is a bit more to it than that, but basically you're on target. No one has ever done a blow-back only anything (other than Spyder cup). There are a lot of cool blow-backs out there. Read the entire thread again, there is logic to the selection of Blow-back mechs.

In my too-many-beers dream world, my ideal tourney is 50-ball hopper, unlimited paint, any gun you like, but all you get is a single 12gram per game (individually numbered and handed to each player as he walks onto the field). So, in effect, I have broadened my scope quite a bit.

One of our local PB shops put on a 3-man tournament at Cowtown (Phoenix) with a newer style Spyder clone from Unity. Gun was OK but the tourney was a hoot! All players used the same guns, paint & air tanks. It helped level the playing field & you played every team. Unlimited paint was supplied & gravity hoppers.

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Old 11-26-2012, 08:06 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Dang, Dude! That does sound like it would be fun.

When I first looked at the Unity Prime, I thought it was an electro, but what I thought were eyes are dual ball detents (although it appears to be pre-drilled for eyes, and an e-grip is an available upgrade). Bonus, it looks sweet in white!

Got a name for the Store/field so I can send them an E-mail about how they set up the rules an' whatnot?
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:22 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Actually, I would rather see you succeed. I would rather that this becomes a model that is followed by others and spreads. Hence, don't make so many limitations, unless there is a logical reason. Not a matter of what you like.
The logical reason goes something as follows: The primary niche this is aimed at includes new players who have purchased a blow back marker. They don't need to be standing around watching other people and wonder "whats that" and find that there shiney new toy is not the end all be all of paintball markers. The secondary niche involves people who want to play against other blowbacks using a blowback marker.

We can argue that the niche is too small but there are logical sentiments behind wanting to limit this to blow-back only.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:07 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I would love to play this kind of turny. And I am a mag guy but would gladly set aside my favorite mag or electro or even my loved pump to pick up my old pro carbine or even pick up a cheap used Tippmann 98. I think it be alot of fun to play with the old blowbacks of yonder. It also be fun seeing the youngins getting into competitive play in a more friendly enviro. A game were 13 bps are not being sprayed across field. A game were ya can actually rent your gear and be competitive. It's a great concept Id love to play.

And I also think for us oldergents it bring us to building some fun little project guns. I could see building a nice regulated 98c with a nice barrel and some light milling. It be fun to tinker with springs and things. It's something lost in today's sport of programing your performance. It's FUN to mess with mechanics in search of a bit better efficiency constancy and style.

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Old 11-26-2012, 11:34 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I could see building a nice regulated 98c with a nice barrel and some light milling.
I think I saw somewhere in this thread that no regulators would be allowed. Unregulated blowbacks only.
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I think I saw somewhere in this thread that no regulators would be allowed. Unregulated blowbacks only.
That would make things messy if you allowed HPA. You can't have HPA without a regulator and If someone chooses to run an adjustable tank reg, it circumvents that rule.
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Regulators would be permitted. I don't see where they would create too many issues. After all, every HPA tank has a reg built into it.
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CO2 only would kill this already shaky idea, IMHO. Regs are not so expensive or ridiculous an upgrade that they would provide an undue advantage, or price players out of the league, nor would they radically affect gameplay.

Pick your goals, write the rules around them, but keep them as wide open as possible when the difference is negligible.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:26 PM   #130 (permalink)
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CO2 only would kill this already shaky idea, IMHO.
I don't think that was ever even on the table. Any airsource, regs are fine, unless I'm missing something.
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