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Old 05-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Hey. No fair bringing math into this. It's an unfair tactic. You should know better than to attempt that around these parts.




I can think of a way to make a .68 cal ballistically inferior -- have limited range and lower the "change [sic]" of breaking. Should be... kind of obvious, but I guess not.



There are two lures of paintball "pistols".

1. The fact that they are ballistically comparable (and possibly better w/ FS) than a full sized marker.
2. The fact that they are holsterable.

If you take away #1, you take away a large amount the basic allure of pistol play. "If he can shoot me, then I can shoot him." So much so that now you are wanting to change the game format to suit your equipment. We've already seen it. Not just here in this thread, but in the industry in general.

#2 is the stuff of pipe dreams, just like pistol play in general is to most people. Your paintball gun belongs in your hands, not in a holster. If you are even considering a backup marker -- FIX YOUR PRIMARY. "Oh man, I better bring this backup pistol." What the Hell's wrong with your primary? And your backup doesn't even share the same rounds as your primary now. WOW FUN.

The worst of all of this is, realistically, this is all a tradeoff, where you trade off a large chunk of #1 for a marginally increased #2. The other stuff is just icing, but THIS IS THE MAJOR TRADEOFF.

You guys are out of your minds if you think that's a good tradeoff.

You're better off trying to change the format of the game first to fit 50 cal equipment than trying to bring 50 cal to a 68 cal fight.

Oh wait that was already attempted.
Thats incorrect. I have pump gun setup for fsr i find it difficult and wastefull to use my primary during instances like maneuvering in tight corners indoors and such. Now i know your answer is going to then get rid of the pump gun but my answer in short is no. I have specific reasons for a manually operated marker. I just want a back up pistol that is smaller and still 68
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Old 05-25-2013, 05:28 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:53 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Sorry; I assumed you were talking about the one he's wanting Doc to build for him.
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:34 PM   #104 (permalink)
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i wonder how people would react to a .50cal fs round
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Old 05-25-2013, 08:43 PM   #105 (permalink)
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i wonder how people would react to a .50cal fs round
Actually, that would be a really good idea. Fixes many of the issues with .50 cal in general use.

You could fill the whole thing with paint (instead of the half filled .68 cal FS rounds), to have it closer to .68 cal in mass, with all the aerodynamic advantages of a FS round.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Actually, that would be a really good idea. Fixes many of the issues with .50 cal in general use.

You could fill the whole thing with paint (instead of the half filled .68 cal FS rounds), to have it closer to .68 cal in mass, with all the aerodynamic advantages of a FS round.
Except, doesn't the rear cavity section of an FS round have some sort of advantageous aerodynamic property? Or does it exist for some manufacturing purpose or to change the round's center of mass?

Barring these, a .50 finned round with the same mass as a .68 FS round would be aerodynamically superior, would it not?
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Except, doesn't the rear cavity section of an FS round have some sort of advantageous aerodynamic property? Or does it exist for some manufacturing purpose or to change the round's center of mass?

Barring these, a .50 finned round with the same mass as a .68 FS round would be aerodynamically superior, would it not?
I think the off center of mass is to prevent tumbling.
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:27 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Barring these, a .50 finned round with the same mass as a .68 FS round would be aerodynamically superior, would it not?
-Yes, except the smaller point of contact would increase the chance of injury.

Same reason we don't make 4 or 5 gram .68 balls, instead of the normal 3-ish gram we have today.

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Old 05-26-2013, 12:15 AM   #109 (permalink)
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-Yes, except the smaller point of contact would increase the chance of injury.

Same reason we don't make 4 or 5 gram .68 balls, instead of the normal 3-ish gram we have today.

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You could trade a slightly smaller point of contact for shell that was guaranteed to break properly.

On a FS-type round, you know what part of the round is hitting the target (the front). So you deliberately score/weaken the front and make sure the things breaks nice and clean.

You can't do that on normal paint for obvious reasons.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:33 AM   #110 (permalink)
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