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Old 10-28-2009, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why do you think it isn't used much any more in pumps? Granted the stock Nelspots were pretty time consuming to change a 12 but there were lots of really cool things you could do to make it just as quick as bucket changers (My opinion I have no facts to back it up)
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Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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Please Please Please keep me informed on this one that looks really like a really nice design.

I'm currently working on putting together an old Nelspot with battle grips and a lever in place of the usual wheel. Not really going anywhere with that, this kinda reminded me of that.
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I'd say it's because having in the handle cartridges limits you to stock class only. As pumps evolved in the mid 80's constant air was the thing to get. Having an ASA on the gun meant you could run a a C/A tank or a bucket changer if all you had was 12 grams. So most of the guns designed from the mid 80's on (like the Phantom etc...) had that philosophy. Despite the recent revival in old-school gear, pure stock class guns still aren't in huge demand. And when most people can pick up a Phantom that can easily switch between the two setups, very few will opt for a gun that leaves them stuck with 12g.

I agree though that for a stock class gun, in the grip is cool !
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Yeah the decline in SC play is probably it, but you did have the CA adaptors for guns like the splatmaster I wonder why more companies didn't go that way.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It would interesting if someone made an in air grip that was universal. For instance, just have a fitting coming out the side. Run a short macro or steel braided along the side to wherever you need it. Obviously you'd have to chose what gun to base it on. Still would be neat though.

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Old 10-28-2009, 05:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just be careful with those types of changers. I've seen carter shoot out 12 grams like missiles from slam changers... a little scary when a 12 gram zips past your head (and you're in the parking lot 30 feet from the chrono range...).
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Why do you think it isn't used much any more in pumps? Granted the stock Nelspots were pretty time consuming to change a 12 but there were lots of really cool things you could do to make it just as quick as bucket changers (My opinion I have no facts to back it up)
in handle tends to be less efficient and for a lot of people more ackward when changing 12g's. in the 2 big explosions of stock play (early and late 90's) most people settled on back bottle buckets being the ideal set up for speed,and performance,you will see a bunch of in handle carter ducks and box guns converted from that era to BB.

you can still get in handle set ups,slam and knob from both carter and mongo
for a price.

im with you though id like to see an available option for them
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