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Old 02-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:00 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I don't know/care. The collectable value of the Renegade is 3-6 times the other YJs. And if you look at my other vehicles, almost all of them were called "The ugliest" by some authority on the matter.
I kinda like the YJ Renegade. It always reminded me of the oddball CJ-10 with its fender lights, and odd-shaped fenders.

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Is the YJ Renegade ugly? Who gives a shlt, its unique. Today, because of DOT, and EPA regulations, its getting harder, and harder to make cars look unique, and different from each other. And even though nothing else in the market is like a Jeep, there are millions on the road... all with mostly the same setup.

So I'm glad that my old Jeep is really ugly.... Its ugly and its mine
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:20 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I hope the first part of your comment is a joke... Do you know what percentage of Jeep owners rock crawl their jeep? It's rare to even see jeep owners, who are INTO offroading, rock crawling.
It's less that they don't and more that they could. There's no reason for all Jeeps to be hardcore off-roaders. That's what literally every model besides the CJ and Wrangler are. It's like offering a package for a Ferrari that includes a light lift and BFG A/Ts.

It's not that I hate street-oriented Jeeps (I'd be all over a Grand Cherokee SRT-8 if I had the money), it's just that the Renegade does nothing to make it better at either off-road OR on-road performance and looks, IMO, really weird.

Plus, Renegades never sold well because the package was a $5000 option in the early '90s ($8200 in today's money). That's half the average selling price of a car from that period. (Average $16,000 for a new car then). That's a titload of money for the world's largest fender flares and some leather trim.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:40 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:56 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Is the YJ Renegade ugly? Who gives a shlt, its unique. Today, because of DOT, and EPA regulations, its getting harder, and harder to make cars look unique, and different from each other. And even though nothing else in the market is like a Jeep, there are millions on the road... all with mostly the same setup.

So I'm glad that my old Jeep is really ugly.... Its ugly and its mine
My jeep is ugly, too. But how often do you see my jeeps body style?
And it's emissions stuff is missing. Ghetto exhaust. Glass packs where the catalyctic converters are then some muffler.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:08 PM   #106 (permalink)
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and this picture is the reason she has ever been to the shop, other than inspections.. 40mph into some trees off I-80 in pa this past october, only ended up doing 5.3k$ in damage...

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Old 02-13-2012, 08:47 PM   #107 (permalink)
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nice dub's alpha. what is that amazing yellow car?
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:57 AM   #108 (permalink)
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My new beater, $10/mo insurance, 50mpg, '89 VW Jetta 1.6 N/A Diesel, 60hp of pure, raw, slowness...


I'll get pics of mine soon, it's white and a little beat up, but not bad at all. Other cars are a '92 BMW 318i 'vert and a '85 Mazda RX-7 that should be running again this year. I stole the stereo out of my BMW since I'm not driving it for now, got 2- 6x9's, 2- 6.5", and a 10" sub in the rear deck. The car is so damn slow it should at least be comfortable and sound good...I tried to top it out and got up to 90mph after a few minutes...might break 100 with a strong tailwind

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only ended up doing 5.3k$ in damage...
Only? I could buy 5 good running cars for that price I've always paid cash for cars, this VW is actually the most I've spent on one at $1500.

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Old 02-14-2012, 04:00 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:37 AM   #110 (permalink)
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You guys with the Mazdaspeed 3s, how bad is the torque steer? Whenever I read a review about them in a magazine everyone brings up the torque steer.
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