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Old 08-03-2012, 01:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think it's important to note that the bill was not for "saving the boy", but rather his ambulance ride. I think the statement that he thought the ride to the hospital was "routine" means the public needs to be better educated on when not to get into an ambulence.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Maybe they should put taxi meters or a menu in the ambulance so you know what the charge is going to be.

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Old 08-03-2012, 03:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think it's important to note that the bill was not for "saving the boy", but rather his ambulance ride. I think the statement that he thought the ride to the hospital was "routine" means the public needs to be better educated on when not to get into an ambulence.
Don't forget the bill for the ER and all that too. You know, all the things he wouldn't have had pushed on him if he had of just said "Oh, what a shame someone is drowning. Sucks to be him, wonder what's for dinner."

Not sure how things are else where, but I do know emergency services tend to gloss over any related costs here at the time, and make things sound reasonable.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Here is the awesome thing. If it is found out he is trained and COULD have helped - he could be sued.

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Here is the awesome thing. If it is found out he is trained and COULD have helped - he could be sued.

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As much as I dislike any extra laws or regulations, this is why we NEED "good samaritan" laws to protect good people from this kind of nonsense.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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As much as I dislike any extra laws or regulations, this is why we NEED "good samaritan" laws to protect good people from this kind of nonsense.
I thought the point of good samaritan laws generally are designed to impose criminal liability on people who can help but choose not to.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:33 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I thought the point of good samaritan laws generally are designed to impose criminal liability on people who can help but choose not to.
In Canuckistan, the Good Samaritan Act takes away any and all liability if you're trained and don't overstep the limits of your training. Not sure if it allows for liability if you do nothing, but I know it does if you stop after you start helping before EMS/Fire arrives.

I'd VERY much like to see the breakdown of a $1900 ambulance ride. In Ontario it's $50 by bus or by helicopter and I think that's just so people don't abuse it. The care is "free".

I remember once hearing from my cousin that he was attacked (he's an EMT in the US) by a parent of a kid they were about to transport because he wouldn't have been able to afford the bill.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I thought the point of good samaritan laws generally are designed to impose criminal liability on people who can help but choose not to.
I guess like most everything, it depends on the state. In my last state they served to protect you from instances like the one in the first post.

If you worked to save someone and they were injured as a result they couldn't come after you since without your action they'd be dead anyways.

One example is breaking someones ribs (common occurance) while performing CPR.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I thought the point of good samaritan laws generally are designed to impose criminal liability on people who can help but choose not to.
No, good samaritan laws are to protect people from criminal or civil suits (sp?) if they attempt to help someone. An example would be a person pulls someone out of a burning car wreck, but the person has a broken back and becomes paralyzed from being pulled from the wreck. They can't sue the person who pulled them from the wreck, because that person was acting to save their life.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:24 AM   #20 (permalink)
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As a former PAramedic I can tell you two things about this incident.

He did not have to go is he did not want to. Wild is correct, the public needs to be educated about when to use the EMS system. About %20 of the calls I had were people thinking that being taken by the ambulance would get them priority in the ER... It dosent.

And the cost, most private ambulance companies get about a %45-%50 return in billing. Try running a biz with those stats.
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