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[Legion]

Well i know this will get me yelled at but i have been spending a few moments here and there designing a platform for my FASOR marker. Its far enough along to start leaking some pixs and details.

First let me tell you about the design specs...

A) Low cost
B) Easy to machine
C) Simple design
D) Quality

I wanted a marker that even a 14 year old girl can understand. So i set about looking for a platform that was very simple. The fasor fits that catagory for me very well. Also i wanted to be able to develop a pump version of the same platform.

Second i wanted something that i could produce with realtive ease.
I started with a merlin body and while it works well i decided to go with a modular body Like a Z-force or the CCM prototype. However other than cocker threads thats where the simlarities end.

For a valve i have designed a spyder based valve that uses exsiting stems and cup seals for low cost.

Anyway here are some peaks...yeah i know i should be working on the Mamba but I have ADHD so i need a change every once and a while.

[Legion]

I have a cocker frame on it now but the frame is irrelevent. I have another prototype with a Angel lcd frame on it. Basicly i want a marker that any frame you can fit a solenoid in will work.

The ram is under design (love slow work days).

[Paintballer50505]

looks cool. are you gonna try and make the linkage between the two halves shorter in a final version, cause it seems kind of high.

food for thought with the trigger frame, I would love to see someone use the utb board and design a trigger frame that accepts the ar15 style grips that are on the old nellies. If you incorporate the utb and a small noid and the rest in the top portion which is possible, then only the battery would need to be housed in the grip frame and their are plenty of choices that customers can ask for and you would only need to slightly modify the thing to work correctly.

Im sure people would dig being able to use either a ccm 86 frame feel or something like a sergi humpback frame especially around here

[desertT1]

Nice begining, looks pretty clean. I think it might be easier/cool to use a mechanical anti chop method such as a JAM/ACS styled bolt. If you are going for a simple and easy to use marker, not having to worry about eyes would be nice.

[Legion]

Yes this of course is a rough rough prototype the linkage will be smaller and thinner (i had that same though as soon as i bolted it together).

The frame will be open as i hope to encourage anyone with the facilities to reproduce this marker if they can, if not i will make componets available so they can build their own. The grip frame screws are cnc drilled so i can offer the body i any frame config they actually want. I hope to stimulate some open source work here.

As for the board, pretty much any basic board will work, for me i will be using Scenario dreams boards, as damon has provided me with a lot of techinical help as well as lots of demo product to build with.

You could add eyes or leave them out...My final version will have beam break eyes.

[fwag69]

So this what you told me about on the phone? i like it, i like it alot. If you do make a pump version, will it run sheridan/simalarly based, or like a faspr/mq'd sniper? Will oyu sell them *** kits w/o frames etc?

Either way, i like it alot.

[Legion]

Yep this is it or at least a repersentaion of it.

The pump while purely on the drawing board and subject to change will be a purely mechanical version simlar to a sniper with custom configurations.

Some of the parts will be cast instead of machined.

[dukie]

Thanks for the PM Legion! Brought brain, I think. Still can't spell though.

Going with a spyder / intimidator front plug will give you an awful lot of options for LPR's / vertical adapters / horizontal adapter( why not?)/ 12g drop outs / volume chambers / pump rods(!), and or anything else that can be imagined to use there with a basic plug in fitting. And it sure makes it easy to service the cup seal and spring.

Hell I think if you had a shim tube around the valve spring of the right length, you could even install the valve from that end ( provided you had a shoulder and an oring on the other end of the valve). I could model that if its not clear. That may eliminate internal threading and the valve nut in the body of the marker ( simplified machining).

If you were going to want any grip frame to be usable, why not mill the bottom of the marker flat ( can't tell if you have already from the picture, and round bottom markers are a PITA!!!) and sell an adapter plate that bolts securely to the marker. You could then sell a couple of different style adapter plates ( or make them on the fly with premachined blanks) for absolutely any grip frame to bolt to ( grip frame bolts to the adapter not to the marker).

For solenoids I would go with clapper coils ( cheap and chearful), but with an adapter to use paintball standard 3 and 4 way mechanical valves. Almost all of the clippard 2, 3 and 4 ways as well as cocker 4 ways use that same strange 15/32" thread. $5 for a clapper coil, and $10 or so for a valve and you can replace the entire solenoid, or even a part of it.

Standardize on #10-32 barbs please !!!!!!! m3,m4,m5,#10,#6,#8 arghhhh way to damn many different ones out there! and with all different bloody sizes of tubing! 10-32 are the most common and easiest to get, and are available in a lot of barb sizes.

I will probably think of more while trying to go to sleep.

[Critical]

What about vertical air? Doesn't seem like that frame on the body allows enough space for a reg.

Edit: Dukie answered it while I spent time thinking about what I was writing.

[Legion]

Going with a spyder / intimidator front plug will give you an awful lot of options for LPR's / vertical adapters / horizontal adapter( why not?)/ 12g drop outs / volume chambers / pump rods(!), and or anything else that can be imagined to use there with a basic plug in fitting. And it sure makes it easy to service the cup seal and spring.

Yep were on the same page there. that was my thoughts when i desgned the body.

Hell I think if you had a shim tube around the valve spring of the right length, you could even install the valve from that end ( provided you had a shoulder and an oring on the other end of the valve). I could model that if its not clear. That may eliminate internal threading and the valve nut in the body of the marker ( simplified machining).

There is no internal threading...the valve will be held in place by retaining screws.

If you were going to want any grip frame to be usable, why not mill the bottom of the marker flat ( can't tell if you have already from the picture, and round bottom markers are a PITA!!!) and sell an adapter plate that bolts securely to the marker. You could then sell a couple of different style adapter plates ( or make them on the fly with premachined blanks) for absolutely any grip frame to bolt to ( grip frame bolts to the adapter not to the marker).

The body is milled flat...good idea on the adapter plates.

For solenoids I would go with clapper coils ( cheap and chearful), but with an adapter to use paintball standard 3 and 4 way mechanical valves. Almost all of the clippard 2, 3 and 4 ways as well as cocker 4 ways use that same strange 15/32" thread. $5 for a clapper coil, and $10 or so for a valve and you can replace the entire solenoid, or even a part of it.

Lol what the hell is clapper coil? Better post a picture.

Standardised barbs is a good idea.