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Old 05-13-2008, 05:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So it will work with this..
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...IMG_0007-1.jpg
... without any mods?

Sweet if so! I guess I would need the cam, lever arm and screw.?
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Great idea bro. You should be able to sell alot of these.
hope not too much, im running out of them, and i still need some for my guns........ and they are not fun to make, the Cam is a PITA

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Old 05-13-2008, 05:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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how to tune the AT

First things first the pump rod screw(PRS) hole needs to be in the right position for the lever, so the PRS never hits the top of the levers slot, it could snap the PRS , heres hows to set that:
the lever should be in the most forward position while the bolt is forward
OR!
it should be in the most rearward position while the backblock is all the way back

in either case it will prevent the lever slot from reaching its maximum range of motion, which could snap the pump rod screw


Adjusting the cam differs from the frame,

for a Slider Frame the Cam should be then loosened in and the frame and then pull the trigger, this will bottom out the cam, and with the back block all the way forward snugly tighten the cam to the lever, then take out the lever....make sure the cam doesnt spin, and using a vice tighten it securly dont over tighten you can break the screw(i tried to test cam thread strength and with full force i broke the head off of the screw)

so when your done if you pull the trigger the lever should be aligned with the pump rod hole(PRH) or a tad forward of it, if its is behind the PRH you will get a premature release of the sear when ATing and no release when single shotting.

but again being mindful of giving the slot a tad of clearance when its all the way forward so not to bind it


SLIDER LUG ADJUSTMENT
with your PRH and lever lined up, and the PRS not screwed into the PRH, hold the trigger down and cock the gun, if you get the sear catching then you need to raise your lug until it doesnt, if it does....take out the cam from the frame and pull the trigger to release it....raise the lug until it doesnt catch

then you need to bolt everything together and fine tune your hammer lug to release about 1/16th before the backblock contacts the body, or a tad more....as much are your comfortable with, because it will never release consistently everytime due to gun tolerances



with Dye frames the Cam & Lever adjustment is different because the cam doesnt need to bottom out all the way on the trigger because of the mechanical advantage a hinge gives you. and if you did the lug will bottom out on the body.......and thats bad


so what i do is spin the cam around until it fires...first noting the cam angle where it fired then loosening the cam and line up the lever so its full forward, tighten the cam then try again. Repeat to check angle, and then screw in the PRS and fine tune with the lug

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Old 05-16-2008, 05:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I bought a cam from pump a while back, and it works great on my dye hinge. Thanks pump.

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Old 05-16-2008, 06:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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yeah i deleted all my PMs so i was like..................who did i sell it to....who....


hey can you let us know how it was tunning the AT?
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It was pretty easy. I attached the cam loosely to the lever/arm. Put the lever/arm in the forward position. Checked trigger to make sure it would move and release the hammer. Screwed down the cam to the lever/arm and lever/arm to the pump rod. Gave it a couple of dry fires to make sure it was working properly. Added air and chronoed it. That's about it.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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cool, did you notice that the Cam didnt need to bottom out with the Dye?
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
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how much for just a screw? or where can i find them?
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
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what timing i found out www.PBmodshop.com sells them i dont know the specs exactly but its good to know, im having a hard time getting some ATM. once i run out ill be refering everyone to him to buy them, unless i buy a bunch myself first...well see how lazy i get


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Old 05-19-2008, 09:17 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:15 PM   #30 (permalink)
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ok well it seems some frames have safety holes MUCH lower than what i used to measure how long the levers are, so inorder for the levers to work on more frames i need to mill the slot longer...and the cam screw hole longer as well

the result is GHETTO fabness, but it works fine


so im blowing out these GHETTO Levers for only 10 bucks


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Lever blowout Price $10 SELF INSTALLS ONLY

if your sending in your gun or parts for fitting.....then its normal price

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