Good for a kid, i'll sell them cheap.
I have a pair of empire pants i won a few years ago. They are now just a touch short for me, so i don't wear them anymore. I feel bad having a nice pair of pants just hanging in my room. size 28-32 waist.
I will see if i can get pic's later. They are black/grey with a reinforced but not padded knee. All of the seams are fine except for some of the cosmetic stitching on the knee.
20 bucks? 30 maybe? i dunno. Would be good for a kid so he isn't ripping up all the pants you buy him.