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[Tom Poh]

k, not new to the sport but definately new to anything other than semi's and my phantom. selling second phantom tomorrow and need to know before i order from palmers.

what is the difference between the superstocker and the houndstooth? the both can configure with stock feed. also whats the difference between the stock gripframe and the single trigger frame. is the difference worth the 170 more?? i'm leaning towards the superstocker out of the cheaper palmer guns (but looking at the houndstooth also since i can't see the difference via the pic). configured with stock feed, 12 inch barrel with dual porting, stock gripframe, unless the single trigger frame is worth the 170 more. want in matte nickel.


please help me out as i'd like to order as soon as my guns sold tomorrow . thanks in advance!

[Marauder_Pilot]

IMO, getting the 45 frame is worth it. I personally cannot stand Sheridan-style frames.

[pizzaluvr]

Houndstooths are Open Class. Tank and hopper.
Superstockers are Stock Class. 10 round tube and 12 gram.

[p8ntguykenny]

Well, a name isn't really important. The names are given to preset configurations within a set of options. What is important is that you figure out how you want your marker configured. Remember their moto, "Where custom still means something". Look at some of the more customer Palmer markers some of the members here have. Most of them end up naming their own anyway, so you're not limited to just a Super Stocker or just a Houndstooth.

If that doesn't help you, maybe this will. If you were to buy a Super Stocker and a Houndstooth configured exactly the same (super stocker style feed, everything else being the standard (0 added cost) options) the difference is $45 (the cost of the SS style feed on the HT). If you were to get each with 12 gram air source the difference would be $35 (since a 12 gram on a SS is $10 more than on the HT for some reason). After that, everything is a dollar for dollar match.

Mostly, people will go with a SS if they want to play stock class or an HT if they want to play open pump. It's like the difference between a P-68SC and P-68AT.

[Phantom Power]

I love the Sheridan style frame, so maybe try one out if you can get your hands on one before you order and see which you'd prefer.

[Tom Poh]

Originally Posted by p8ntguykenny

Well, a name isn't really important. The names are given to preset configurations within a set of options. What is important is that you figure out how you want your marker configured. Remember their moto, "Where custom still means something". Look at some of the more customer Palmer markers some of the members here have. Most of them end up naming their own anyway, so you're not limited to just a Super Stocker or just a Houndstooth.

If that doesn't help you, maybe this will. If you were to buy a Super Stocker and a Houndstooth configured exactly the same (super stocker style feed, everything else being the standard (0 added cost) options) the difference is $45 (the cost of the SS style feed on the HT). If you were to get each with 12 gram air source the difference would be $35 (since a 12 gram on a SS is $10 more than on the HT for some reason). After that, everything is a dollar for dollar match.

Mostly, people will go with a SS if they want to play stock class or an HT if they want to play open pump. It's like the difference between a P-68SC and P-68AT.

so pretty much you're saying it's the same gun, named different because of the feed configurations. cos i did see the stockclass feed option for HT and thought it looks exact same lol. thanks for you info guys. very much appreciated. one more thing tho. the difference between the stock grip and single trigger grip? i'm told that the only dif is the angle and the bottom screw holes to accept a stock and an asa if need be?/
i don't need either so i'm safe with stock grip?
thanks

[Sexy_Chicken]

They're both single trigger frames. It's just the .45 frame is well, a .45 frame, so it can take .45 grips and standard bottomlines. The Sheridan frame can't take bottomlines without a UMB (they're around $20-30 from Palmers, I believe) and when using a UMB, the ASA you install will be at a slight angle downward from the frame. It's really a matter of personal preference. If you're accustomed to .45 frames, it might be worth it, but I'm personally just as big a fan of the Sheridan frames as I am .45s. You said you don't need a bottomline, so I'd just go with the Sheridan frame and save yourself that wad of money.

[pizzaluvr]

Your best bet would be to call them and say "I need a HT/SS with a Right feed and 12 grams" or something similar, or however you want it to be set up.

[Motorhead]

Originally Posted by Tom Poh

so pretty much you're saying it's the same gun, named different because of the feed configurations. cos i did see the stockclass feed option for HT and thought it looks exact same lol. thanks for you info guys. very much appreciated. one more thing tho. the difference between the stock grip and single trigger grip? i'm told that the only dif is the angle and the bottom screw holes to accept a stock and an asa if need be?/
i don't need either so i'm safe with stock grip?
thanks

Basically Yes, The 2 brass tubes that make up the main body are cut to specific lengths, Feed neck / Stock class tubes style are just a model or buyers preference modified part before getting soldered together.
The Valve / Striker / Grip frame & Sear are ALL the same !!

** Valves internal size is altered tho for 12gm or C/A applications.

Even the stubby PUG is build with the same basic parts, just configured a tad different and shorter.


Grip frames feel COMPLETELY different between the Stock "semi sheridan" style and a .45 frame.

The stock grip is swept back at more angle, is smaller in grip diameter and shorter in length than the .45 frames.
Generally I have found having HUGE XXL size hands, I prefer the .45 frames.
Large to med sized hands will be fine using the stock grip frame IMO.

[Tom Poh]

thank you guys. my deciding problems are solved. will go with superestocker, stock feed, vert bottle, stock grip, dual porting, matte nickle.

can those sp wood grips fit onto the stock frame?