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Old 04-11-2008, 02:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you can find one for less than $50 and don't mind tinkering with it, then go for it.
thats the thing, i have never seen one on any b/s/t forum, so that means either it is great and being hoarded, or they never sold.

how about has anyone ever modded a pump with a shotgun style design like this one?
i have seen the duckslide, and that thing is a work of art and a testament to what someone can create when properly motivated.
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i dumped mine for $45 on AO god it sucked so bad
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, out of the box, they suck rocks. If you follow Russc's guide, then it'll be a gun worth using. Otherwise, save your pennies and wait out for a KP when one comes up on the forum (Alternately, you can go mug c6quad or Latoolman, they've both got a billion )
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So is the RAP68 and the RAM68 the same marker?

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Old 04-11-2008, 03:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yes.. one in the same.

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Old 04-11-2008, 03:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I will agree with the statement that out of the box they are horrid. I have not used one that was upgraded in anyway though.

The one I used chopped like it was built to do so. The loading process is slow and tricky until you get the hang of opening the (under) breech After you get the hang of opening the breech its only nominally faster. Paint must still be fed one round at a time into the magazine. The longer versions may be able to stock more paint but will hamper your mobility if you play in any type of confined courses or postitions.
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I will agree with the statement that out of the box they are horrid. I have not used one that was upgraded in anyway though.

The one I used chopped like it was built to do so. The loading process is slow and tricky until you get the hang of opening the (under) breech After you get the hang of opening the breech its only nominally faster. Paint must still be fed one round at a time into the magazine. The longer versions may be able to stock more paint but will hamper your mobility if you play in any type of confined courses or postitions.
your missing the point they are hard to fload because its ment to load like a shotgun (hence the milsim) yes I agree the internals are cheaply made, I have not had any problems with mine (or the dozen or so I see floating around) , RAP4 has nothing to do with them they are made by APS in china same as all the .43 markers that RAP4 sell (can not vouch for the .68 mag feed guns)
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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RAP has a lot to do with them... they are a major distributer

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Old 04-11-2008, 04:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Fact that they are based off of chinese ripoffed designs has a lot to do with it too.

I had a Rap4 M4 and an S4. Both made with the same tolerances, craftsmanship and materials.

For those not familiar with the S4, they are infamous for barely working.
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