General

[Painthappy]

Now take it easy on Evan. I don't know the guy, but at least he's trying something new. I don't agree with it, but whatever.

Now, the PROBLEM with paintball and why it's not on the X-Games or where ever is simple...

The only format that you can film is speedball. And what is the point of paintball? To NOT get shot. And what do you do? You hide.

What do sponsors want? To have their ads and boys be SEEN!!! Major conflict of interest there.


And the current method of playing (as it only makes sense) is to be hidden, and stay in one spot, and lay down as much paint as possible pinning down the other side, while you creep up, lie down and stay hidden.

Aside from a bunkering... there's not much action. And even then, that bunkering may take a couple of seconds, and is near impossible to film well.


I people want to get paintball on TV, they need to have movement, better viewing of the players, and a better caliber of player on the field.

Cheaters... Worrying about cheating, etc... needs to go.

Eliminate the cheating by having a league with a forced membership, and structure where the people can be fined and then banned from.

Drop the firepower, or drop the amount of paint that is allowed onto the field. Force more movement.

Change the bunkers...

People are trying to change it, but we haven't found that magic combination just yet. And as long as the money in the sport is tied to paint... It will never change.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Not really new ideas.
When ESPN first showed a tournament on TV, it was woodsball, and a total disaster.

So they went on to try and create a more "sport-like" version will TONS of odd rules like "offsides", and various levels of "objectives". And so forth.

That failed too, since paintball is unwatchable on TV. But I give ESPN credit for pushing tournament speedball more then anything else.

I think if you limit paint, you fix most of the other problems in paintball.
For example- Who cares if you are using cheat-modes at 30bps when you only have 200rnds for the whole game?

Plus, with far less paint, you have far greater control of how the game progresses. It becomes more then just "whoever shoots the most wins". It adds a greater level of skill, kinda like the "nitro" button in Indy racing.

Nick

[Azzy]

I'll go with that Carter, but one of the biggest things I think is keeping it from going where they want it is the attitude of the players. Sportsmanship isnt the greatest.. and paintball doesnt have the money that the NBA has to just shrug that kind of stuff off.

Thats where I look at the whole moneyball naming.. it promotes to me an attitude, and i dont see it as a good one.

[Decker]

I love team-limited paint games, give you a chance to have another layer of strategy in the game. You can have front men rocking 10 round pumpers with the guys on the fast fingers in the back.

Who would cares if they got uber-markers when like you said your limited by paint. I like POV cams too, that would be killer on a few guys. Center flag is one of my favorite styles because it makes a central focal point that both teams are trying to get to and it become cut thought.

[Cunha]

I think that offensive line that eliminates players would end up being pretty ridiculous. I do think limited paint makes alot of sense.

[Schmitti]

I think the only reason you should be able to have an offensive line is if your back guys are fire support and artillary and can lob grenades

E

[Azzy]

Originally Posted by Schmitti

I think the only reason you should be able to have an offensive line is if your back guys are fire support and artillary and can lob grenades

E

Now there is an idea!

[Schmitti]

I think Dale (Sugarstump) had the right idea bringing the grenade on the tourney field that one time.



E

[dead possum]

this is just one of the many evolutionary steps that a sport takes. all sports suffer the same afliction.. ie how many forms of hockey can you think of or even basball which has not changed much but how many variations and leauges are or have been.

the new model that is being proposed will either take or fall. just think of how goofy the first 'air' bunker field that you saw, (especially the original ones that used a constant supply.) i have to admit that it made me laugh (i started in the woods) heck even xball made me laugh, but i still have tried or waiting to try the various formats. every player will find the format the they like, and play 90% of the time in the venue. so if this solves many of the 'problems with paintball' great all the more that i hope it lasts, if it does not well unless it contributes in a possitive manner i dont see it lasting (imo).

dead possum

[Azzy]

Well, we all remember arena football...