New Marker from GOG- The eNMEy - Page 8

y0da900 · 10-04-2012, 08:57 PM

Just sent Delta my info for a pre-order.

This is the first NEW marker I will have purchased since my 98C in 2000 or 2001.

You can still find Cocker breaches, but I can all but guarantee this will be a unibody system like in every Ion variant after the Epiphany and classic Ion, and only available in Ion/Imp threads. The feedneck on this is integrated into the exoskeleton, the 2 piece bodies were threaded themselves for the feednecks.

Kind of curious which method of trigger they are using - pulse valve of some sort or a normally open 3-way. I suppose they could also use a check valve off of a 3-way, but that would infringe on the PE patent for the GEO - most (if not all) other direct pneumatic triggering mechanisms are fair game from expired patents or un-patented prior art. Either way, definitely hoping they stick with the same bolt system as all of the others in the family.

The Inflicted · 10-04-2012, 09:01 PM

So far as chop protection goes, is the vibe/SP-1 bolt soft enough to prevent breaks by itself?

punisher068 · 10-04-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cirkle68

So they took dw/yoda's ion mech kit?

Funny i just saw a post about this on PBNation and put a link on the thread about Yoda and Deathwish conversion kit,I was surprized not many people had heard of it/them.I've got 2 now myself and both shoot awesome,really reminds me of my old Micromag
Decent price for a new gun,Id rather but a used ion and kit from dw/yoda myself

tenchustealthx · 10-04-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Inflicted

So far as chop protection goes, is the vibe/SP-1 bolt soft enough to prevent breaks by itself?

Kind of curious about this myself.

delta paintball · 10-04-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MondoMor

I hope this is what it seems. A mass-produced, cheap, single-trigger pneumatic Ion would be a good thing. Do they still make 'cocker threaded breeches?

Sorry, just Impulse/Ion Threads.

blackrain · 10-04-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tenchustealthx

Kind of curious about this myself.

Be honest I've only broken about 3 rnds out of about 20,000+ rounds. All 3 were my fault.

All I'm seeing is an upgraded ENVY that has gone pneumatic. If GOG is offering Tech Classes, then there must be something inside we are not seeing in the picture.

As I mentioned "SLUGO" as taught me all pictures aren't true

We should all just wait till the final pictures and tech info comes out

Some internals and externals info has already been posted here. I know I'm thinking one thing and it will end up another. Either way it isn't long for the lathe

Later,
Blackrain

blackrain · 10-04-2012, 10:45 PM

No matter what, this is a good thing:

1-New low priced entry gun
2-More players on a budget can play
3-already existing repair parts on the market
4-Probably easy to modify/repair.

Later,
Blackrain

hth · 10-04-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Autocockerfan

Here is my little snip. If in fact it is only the standard ion, or so, with the mech setup; I have lost even more resect for SP. Copycat jerks. Just like KEE and Tippman using the AGD Automag design. Again, copycat jerks. Get your own design.

Cmon, now if you copycat another person it should be ok. It will be competition that will decide a winner. What was the word for this.... I think it starts a C and is opposite of communism

y0da900 · 10-04-2012, 11:29 PM

The Ion is nothing more than an altered balance Matrix to begin with - which started out as a mechanical gun. Which is based on a valve system used in the meat packaging industry.

If you look at all of the systems used in paintball, there are very few completely unique systems that don't borrow in some fashion from the earlier models. Most of them rather far removed.

Taking another design, reverse engineering it, reproducing it part for part would make someone a jerk, not borrowing design cues. Although, that would explain the NME part of the name....

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackrain

No matter what, this is a good thing:

1-New low priced entry gun
2-More players on a budget can play
3-already existing repair parts on the market
4-Probably easy to modify/repair.

Later,
Blackrain

PVT · 10-05-2012, 12:34 AM

I usually would be with the people whining about this because there is a good deal to be bothered by when talking about SP/GOG/etc.

However if a cheaper, good quality, easy to care for marker comes out and gets more people into the game then no one can really complain. The sport needs more players and this is at least one way to get them.

10-04-2012, 08:57 PM	#71 (permalink)
y0da900 MCB Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Plattsburgh, NY	Just sent Delta my info for a pre-order. This is the first NEW marker I will have purchased since my 98C in 2000 or 2001. You can still find Cocker breaches, but I can all but guarantee this will be a unibody system like in every Ion variant after the Epiphany and classic Ion, and only available in Ion/Imp threads. The feedneck on this is integrated into the exoskeleton, the 2 piece bodies were threaded themselves for the feednecks. Kind of curious which method of trigger they are using - pulse valve of some sort or a normally open 3-way. I suppose they could also use a check valve off of a 3-way, but that would infringe on the PE patent for the GEO - most (if not all) other direct pneumatic triggering mechanisms are fair game from expired patents or un-patented prior art. Either way, definitely hoping they stick with the same bolt system as all of the others in the family. __________________ y0da900 / Deathwish_DW's drop in mechanical Ion conversion * FOR SALE * My Videos and Animations Be a part of the MCB Open Source Gun Feedback Closed Bolt Ion conversion kits NOW AVAILABLE

10-04-2012, 09:01 PM	#72 (permalink)
The Inflicted . Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chattanooga, TN	So far as chop protection goes, is the vibe/SP-1 bolt soft enough to prevent breaks by itself? Last edited by The Inflicted; 10-04-2012 at 09:07 PM.

10-04-2012, 10:45 PM	#77 (permalink)
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10-05-2012, 12:34 AM	#80 (permalink)
PVT Was Chro Lost Info Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nope	I usually would be with the people whining about this because there is a good deal to be bothered by when talking about SP/GOG/etc. However if a cheaper, good quality, easy to care for marker comes out and gets more people into the game then no one can really complain. The sport needs more players and this is at least one way to get them. __________________ God is a superstition