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sparky 11-07-2012 04:14 PM

Confused: 24-70 F4 L Canon....
 
Just received a letter about Canon releasing a 24 70 F4 L IS lens. I'm a little bit confused why Canon released this lens, its kinda in a strange price point at around 1500 bucks, a few stops slower than the 24-70 2.8 I/II but instead has IS?

Weird things Canon does. I'm sure it's going to be a nice lens, but why will this new lens be so much better than the already awesome 24-105 L F4 IS, which has a the same F rating, more flexible focal length and a lot cheaper....

Confused.

Falcon16 11-07-2012 04:27 PM

I hear ya on the confusion I'm a fellow Canon guy and I can't afford L glass at the moment but I just picked up an EF 70-210 F4 and what I'm confused at is the prices are skyrocketing on it for some reason. Lots of people are saying it's Canon's hidden L before there were L lenses and I'm happy with it for the $125 I paid but with that said having never shot an L 70-200 F4 I don't have the comparison yet. Sometimes the market or the manufacturers do confusing things.

Kermit 11-07-2012 04:31 PM

For video use, a 24-70 f/4 with IS would be great. I'd personally just go with the 24-105 though...

Interesting. I wonder why they didn't just make a 24-70 f2.8 IS already, I've been wanting to see that for a long time.

Arson24 11-07-2012 04:35 PM

I will stick with my 24-105 L....especially at that price

fullofpaint 11-07-2012 08:34 PM

The 105 has a fair amount of distortion on the long side....that's the only reason I can think of why they'd bother introducing this.

russc 11-07-2012 08:47 PM

IS makes a huuuuuge different in handheld video.

sparky 11-07-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arson24 (Post 2527515)
I will stick with my 24-105 L....especially at that price

Same, and save 500 bucks too.

Now why Canon doesn't update some of the most popular lenses I don't know. They've been updating some of their non L primes recently (, IS on a 35 mm? Meh) and they are always seemingly updating the kits lenses for the rebels.

A lot of people including myself would love to see the 100-400 F4.5-6.3 IS updated. Or fix the major longevity issues that their 50 1.4 suffers from.

Who knows.

Mike Deep 11-08-2012 02:15 PM

The 70-210/4 is ****ing Garbage™ and I have no idea why it's on the uptick.

24-70/4 is categorically stupid when the 17-40/4, 24-70/2.8 and 24-105/4 are things that exist. There's maybe some appeal to those with the latest bodies and the highest sensor densities to squeeze out a little more sharpness from a new lens design. Also, there's no blood coming out of this rock.

Arson24 11-08-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Deep (Post 2528382)
The 70-210/4 is ****ing Garbage™ and I have no idea why it's on the uptick.

24-70/4 is categorically stupid when the 17-40/4, 24-70/2.8 and 24-105/4 are things that exist. There's maybe some appeal to those with the latest bodies and the highest sensor densities to squeeze out a little more sharpness from a new lens design. Also, there's no blood coming out of this rock.


lol love the TM after garbage

Why so mike?

Falcon16 11-08-2012 08:38 PM

I think you hit the nail on the head mike at least about the 24-70/4. Instead of introducing a new lens why not work to improve the existing ie you've got a 24-70/2.8 why not see if you can produce a 24-70/2 or around there. Not to mention IS is great for hand holding for relatively long exposures but I find once you're shooting anything fast moving or with exposure times longer than say 1 that IS does next to nothing maybe it's just me but paying for IS lenses seems like a gimmick when if you know what you're doing you don't need IS you can compensate with faster F-stop, therefore producing faster shutter speed or hey why not just invest in a tripod for the long shots that's what I do personally unless I'm in an environment where a tripod isn't practical then IS MIGHT make sense otherwise meh.

Sorry for the rant just had to get that off my chest about the IS lenses and their pricing just because of the IS.

Secondly on the 70-210 F4 being a garbage lens I'd have to disagree there Mike. I know with that said that you're comparing it against high end glass that costs a lot more money to invest in. True hand holding it at 210 at F4 is difficult to get a great blur free shot but the same could be said of any F4 lens without IS (very long zooms are where I totally get IS and it makes sense to me btw). As for some other points (ie that it's soft wide open well of course it will be most lenses are unless you pay a premium. I find most of the time I shoot it around f/8 and it produces wonderful images at that setting F4 is great for DOF though. With that said if I wanted a lot of DOF and bokeh I just use my 50 1.4 as that's what it's made for. I invested in the 70-210 F4 specifically for shots where a zoom was needed and I couldn't get the shot any other way without getting in the way of someeone else's shot (ie my best friend's wedding which I shot over the weekend in partnership with 4 other people). True the 70-210 had some trouble with the lighting if I tried hand holding it but sitting on a tripod that I could move around easily to get the angle right it produced excellent quality pictures. So I'd say that yes it's not the fastest lens on the planet (it's 25+ years old give it a break) and yes it's before USM so the focusing isn't the fastest and it sounds like a toy car HOWEVER use the lens to it's strengths and it is an excellent quality zoom lens that I would pit against just about any of the consumer level zooms today and I can tell you I'll get better quality out of it than them. With that said i just picked up a 28-105 USM II tonight and have been playing with it so it may replace the 70-210 for day to day zoom needs though I know the 70-210 will still be a great lens for airshows or what not like that where the extra range makes a huge difference.

/end rant


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