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Old 11-17-2011, 08:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've been told the non cartridge valves can be modded for the best efficiency (though the cart. valves may be easier to perform certain efficiency mods too).
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The cartridge valve came after Crosman bought Benjamin/Sheridan. I could be wrong but it seems like it was production cost saving move, as Crosman was already using a cartridge valve similar to the one used in the late model Sheridans.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:39 AM   #13 (permalink)
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i see what you guys were saying about the cartridge and non cartridge.

still looking for the issue that makes it leak

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Old 11-18-2011, 01:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Take the grip frame off of the leaky one and push the cart valve out. Don't take it apart yet but take a pic of the front end of the valve. The most likely culprit is the face seal and should be pretty obvious if it's damaged.
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Heard good things about the dyna valve; may have to give it a try since I save 2 from craigslist too.
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Take the grip frame off of the leaky one and push the cart valve out. Don't take it apart yet but take a pic of the front end of the valve. The most likely culprit is the face seal and should be pretty obvious if it's damaged.
That's what my money would be on as well.

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Heard good things about the dyna valve; may have to give it a try since I save 2 from craigslist too.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well waiting for pics of the valve. If he were to promise not to polish it and it's just the face seal I might just send him a couple.

I wouldn't discourage the dyna valve from PPS either as it is a proven improvement. The parts I have are basically factory stock. The PPS valve costs a bit more but also has been modified for better gas flow.
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you can take a look at the branding and that will 99% of the time tell you the valve.

The PA one should be the cartridge valve and the P one should be the old style valve.

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PA-Series is Cartridge Valve and P-Series is old style...The only way it could be possibly be different is if someone converted it to Cartridge which is highly unlikely...not impossible as Stuffy can do it,but,unlikely...even more unlikely for someone to convert a Cartridge Valve gun to old style
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You know I'm going to start converting valves in opposite directions just to mess with you now, right?
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