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Old 10-26-2007, 12:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You know, I've never heard of this stuff for a VM. Got any pictures of these add-ons?
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The original VM Turbo loader looked sorta like this:


Except with the VM, that hose ran to the 1/4" port behind the feedblock. Inside the hopper is a small ram, connected to a "plunger" that pushes the paint around whenever you fire. They rereleased the hopper last year for Tippmanns.

Anyway, I was just thinking: If you are going to drill a 10-32 hole, why not drill UNDER the valve? (assuming your VM is an earlier model without the internal EC). It would take some precision drilling, but the advantage of this method is that all the hoses would be 100% internal, and clean up the look of the gun. In fact, you might not need a hose at all, and simply screw in a 10-32 elbow, and connect directly to the ram?

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Old 10-27-2007, 03:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Here is the ad for the VM. Note the use of the valve set screw was replaced not the valvepilot hole behind the feed block.

http://www.vm68.com/vm68/ad/turbo_loader_ad.jpg
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:33 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Clippard?

Check out Clippard Minimatic
Part # 15453 Male 10-32 Coupling or
Part # 15010 10-32 Extension fitting

If that doesn't do it, contact Clippard and/or Turboloader and see if you can get the part made/shipped. Sometimes company's have leftovers lying around that they're looking for people to dump them on.

Let me know what you do. I'm looking to mount a Turboloader on my VM and I think your method is excellent.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Here is the ad for the VM. Note the use of the valve set screw was replaced not the valvepilot hole behind the feed block.
I'm pretty sure that was just an early prototype.
All the versions I've seen actually used, used the valvepilot hole.

But then I wonder? If you are going to use the valvepilot hole, would you need to also drill a hole into the bolt?

I'm sure some gas would have bypassed around the bolt, but surely you would get much better flow with a small hole THROUGH the bolt.

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I reread the post and understand now.

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I got one of those air actuated hoppers this summer. One of my winter projects was to be getting valve air to it. Now you are doing all the research for me. Woo Hoo! Anyway, I might try and do some experimentation myself in reference to getting this done with an additional port. I have many extra bodies so it's no big deal to me to play around a bit.

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Old 11-25-2007, 08:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
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OK Step one in the investigative process was completed today. I drilled and tapped a 10-32 hole which lined up with one of the spare valve ports which faces 90 to the right of the main one.



I hooked up the turbo loader I got at the Michigan Monster Game this summer. The 1st test without paint showed the loader indexing well and displaying a good amount of snap. The marker was running at 520PSI so that is what the hopper was getting.

After loading up some 6 month old paint that had passed the bounce test, I fired around 100 rounds without a broken ball. However, after close inspection I realized the Hopper had been mashing balls and the hopper and gun were full of paint. Only the superior indexing of the VM was keeping it shooting the balls that were making it down the feed.



I believe I have 2 options.

1.) I use one of my many Indian Creek Maxi Loaders and put in an air nub in one of the following places to agitate the paint without a mechanical lever.





2.) I tap another hole in the hammer travel area just behind the section that the hammer O-ring seals in. Hopefully this air would be at a lower pressure than at the valve.

I am interested in what you folks think (although I'll probably try both just to be able to report back my findings ).

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