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10-08-2007, 11:18 AM
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| Mini AC ques I have been reading on here that mining a cocker will result in a loss of volume in the air chamber. I'm planning on using the front block with the integrated asa from WGP. Is this loss of volume significant? Will I lose any performance modding my gun in this fashion? |
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10-08-2007, 11:22 AM
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| Binky (mod)  Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Schen. NY
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| You meen to say that you plan on taking a stock, full length cocker and having some one mill of the front, your asa would then be mounted to the block and not the body? In reality, no you will not lose performance so long as you are using good pneumatics that are consistant and reliable. Worse comes to worse, if you really feel the need, you can get one of those extended front block screws that acts as a "lp chamber" E
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10-08-2007, 11:55 AM
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| Your going to need a bit of volume if you expect to be doing any high BPS shooting, unless your reg has a large empty pace at the top where it screws into the ASA, or can keep up with that kind of ROF. Or if you plan on going low pressure for some reason (sub 300psi). In that case, you will need volume, and one of the AKA screws or similar should do you fine. (I wouldn't go LP, start at 400, work your way up or down on a stock valve... that will give you great efficiency and consistency. WGP valves from 2K on are pretty good stuff.)
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10-08-2007, 12:38 PM
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| mining a cocker You meen mill of the front back to school with the both of you..... 
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10-08-2007, 12:41 PM
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| Yeah.. you not kidin. Dat waz bad gramer if I evar saw'd it. Sorry was probably trying to do to many things at once this morning when I typed my first responce... but seeing as that was probably my only major mistake I'd consider it batting 1000 in my book  E
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10-08-2007, 01:00 PM
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| So long as you don't plan on going LP, the ROF shouldn't be an issue. The lower the pressure, the more volume of air and quicker re-charge rate on the reg you need. If you plan on keeping the operating pressure at around say, 500-600, then you can chop the sucker to pieces without having to worry about valve chamber volume. Should you want to lower your operating pressure, the volumizing front-block bolts that AKA and ANS sell, (as azzy suggested) in conjunction with a top-quality reg (AKA again) and a high-volume valve (AKA tornado or Shocktech Rat series) will again help increase the volume over stock. Honestly, you can chop the sucker really short, and so long as your operating pressure stays high, you can still achieve the ROF you want. It's all a trade-off. |
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