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Old 09-05-2018, 01:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Intimidator regulator maintenance...

A question to the folks who have multiple intimidators to keep running:

Where are you buying reg seats?


I have had issues finding them for a couple years and really havenít been able to find a good solution.
I have tried Palmers reg seats which seem to work okay in the Torpedo but I still run into occasional creep problems using them in the LPR. Enough frequency to say that they do not work reliably in the stock LPR (in this one at least).

I would love to have this thing shooting reliably again as itís too nice to just hang on the wall.

If anyone has a good source for them or has a couple extras to sell me, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Old 09-05-2018, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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https://www.ansgear.com/Bob_Long_Sch...ervalvelpr.htm

Isn't that essentially the reg seat? The torpedo HPR's and BL lpr's I've rebuilt have both used the same schrader valve for the regulator
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Old 09-05-2018, 02:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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https://www.ansgear.com/Bob_Long_Sch...ervalvelpr.htm

Isn't that essentially the reg seat? The torpedo HPR's and BL lpr's I've rebuilt have both used the same schrader valve for the regulator
Similar and that may even work. The ones I have are like these:




Not my photo but it shows the valve and the seats in the bag above.

The replacement valves you posted may work though. Kinda like the self contained nature of them.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I use regular old o-rings. Small ones. They arent perfect when you look at them, but man, they work well.

Ill check on the sizing when i get home. I make notes in my owners manual as i find out life hacks.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I use regular old o-rings. Small ones. They arent perfect when you look at them, but man, they work well.

Ill check on the sizing when i get home. I make notes in my owners manual as i find out life hacks.
I would love to know which size. Iíve used a wide variety without much success.

That would be the easy way for sure.

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I use a 006 regular black o-ring as my HPR valve seal. I put lots of grease on it to try and stick it in place. It'll look a little loose on the stem, but ive been doing it for years and never had a problem.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Man thanks for sharing that. I have tried the 006 blacks before and had some creep issues along with some straight up no regulation issues. That was with very little grease though.

I’m going to take another whack at it with more grease and see because that would be too awesome if the worked.

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You're welcome - Let me know how it works for you!

Just make sure the oring seats properly and try filling the gap between the ID and the valve stem with grease. It is super annoying.. A black 004 has the right ID, but the OD is too small. The 006 has the right OD, but the ID is too big.

Not sure what kinda grease youre using (not even sure that matters), but im using Corning Dow 55 right from the tube.

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Old 09-14-2018, 05:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If all else fails, try re-facing the seat retainer (brass bolt with the hex head) with fine grit sandpaper (600 would be the bare minimum, 1000+ would be best); I've fixed a few of leaky blowback valves that way. If that doesn't fix it, it'll probably come down to the valve core pin's head being scratched/scuffed by debris (re-facing that with sandpaper is considerably more cumbersome, but not impossible).

I used a PPS valve core seat in my friend's 2k5 LPR (gen 2.5, with stylized gen2 spec LPR) and it worked well enough.

Not sure you want to go that way, but you can also punch your own out of 1/16" or 1/8" thick 70D or 90D urethane sheet (90D will last longer, 70D will seal more easily) with 1/4" and 1/8" punches.

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Old 09-14-2018, 06:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It says 006 Teflon oring. That is the same size as an automag on/off Teflon oring. Have you tried one of those?
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