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Old 01-11-2019, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What do you consider vintage?

So just browsing through PBNs BST the other day, went into the "rare and vintage section"( or whatever it's called over there) and while most of the stuff I would consider rare or vintage there were a few listings for stuff like 06 egos

Definitely not rare, but I then had to ask, what makes a marker "vintage?"

If we go by automobile standards it would have to be at least 25 years old

So just curious, what stuff would you guys list in a vintage section of a BST and what stuff would you not?
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Rare and vintage.... Guns could be rare but not "vintage"
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Paintball is still relatively new and equipment lifespans are usually only a few years (in terms of how long something gets used before it's broken or tossed in an attic somewhere; of course I know a couple guys who keep markers going a lot longer than that ). But, all that said, ten years old could arguably qualify as "vintage". It really depends mostly on who is having the conversation.
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When I think of vintage i think of sheridan vs nelson

When i think of old i think of mag vs cocker and all the semis before. You might call this vintage mech

When i think of vintage electro i think of anything up to about the demise of akalmp when SP killed paintball so about 2005 and back.
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I would say it falls into a couple of categories depending on the type of gun. I would say any electro that is 15 years old is vintage. 20 for mechanical and 25 for pump. Of course that is all subjective and I think people use classic and vintage interchangeably when in my opinion classic is an old design, but might still be made today like the automag or autocockers.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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For “old school” I consider the early electro...

Impulse, Angel, Early Timmy’s, shoebox shockers.

Mags and cockers, of course.

And all the brass stuff you guys like.

I am sure a lot of the electros I named don’t qualify for some of you because you were already quitting by that point. I guess what does it for me is the size. Markers hit a size peak, if you will. It would be hard to get smaller from here. If it was efficient and around the same size as new markers of today, I don’t count it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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For gear, anything made pre-2000.

For Markers, any mech made pre-2000, any electro pre-2005 is probably reasonable.

There are so many defunct companies now that an awful lot is going to fall into this category in the next 5-10 years I think.

I miss Redz gear...
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What ever happened to redz anyway? They just kind of dropped off the radar.

Interesting thoughts.

I had never considered a different definition of vintage for electro vs mechanical but I would consider a shocker 4x4 vintage at this point

What year was the SP vs AKA trial?
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I'd say the latest guns that I'd consider vintage is second gen electros, especially the ones that lack eyes.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Vintage >20 years old (currently 1998 or older)
Rare - Not many made or "1 of X" special runs or maybe signed **** (which I care not about)
Old School - anything new or old that its form is that of Vintage stuff (>20 years old)
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