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Old 12-22-2011, 03:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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This one's ported, so scratch loud.
It depends on your definition of loud. Porting, sure it makes it slightly quiter but it still reatively heavy metal its going to be loud, Compared to say a carbon fiber.

I loved my Lapco barrels when I had timmann. Great barrels super accurate for the price. However, I am disappointed in the bore sizing the length.

Am I going to buy one? Yes, it's the new thing! Forgove me, I am a skeptic. Most paintball products clam they can do this, that, and, the other thing. Very few have lived up to thier fancy clams.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:14 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Gotten .681's and .682 barreles from Lapco on several occasions in the past before this barrel, so this is nothing new.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:40 AM   #33 (permalink)
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.. so this is nothing new.
I'de be hesitant if these were .681 all the way through (like the eigen V1) - I just dont like the idea of a tight bore after the porting starts. Its the step bored feature that appeals to me. Stepbore is common in all two piece barrels.. But in one piece barrels this feature is limited to pps's eliptical honed barrels and the eigen V2.. (I think). (edit: and guys that drill out their one piece barrels for inserts.)

What is new? lapco doing this in a one piece design with a 10" control bore.

I'm a huge new style kaner fan - I've really never found anything that came close. 9.5" control bore down to .682 + step bored + 12" to 16" ported tips. Deadlywind, sly, eigen v2, dye UL, mofo, smarty parts were all very disappointing compared to the kaner. I have a lot of respect for the PPS dual spiral ported brass magic, OTP, scepter & revolver, & bob long longshot - but the rest.. eh, not so much.

Apart from the Eigen lurker V2 this is the only thing that has caught my eye barrel wise in a very long time.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:04 AM   #34 (permalink)
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from their (LAPCO) site...

What is LAPCO Tru-Bore™ Technology?

LAPCO has been refining the barrel making process for 22 years. We started in 1987 with the same raw materials as our competitors and began development of our superior honing technique. By 1990 we had fully developed our technique which utilized a unique 3 step hone (by "step" we mean a controlled 3 Diameter Taper for gentle release of the ball). In 1996 we started development of our gun-drilling process in order to make Stainless Steel barrels. After we could not get the quality or quantity of gun-drilled material that we needed, we brought gun drilling "in house". As we refined the gun drilling process, we found that by controlling the process we could get a far better finish and much closer size control than was available from our prior vendors. This allowed us to remove less material in honing resulting in improved concentricity and the even better LAPCO finish you know today. At this time, we found that with the proper porting, muzzle design, and improved finish we could get even better accuracy with a straight honed barrel. Please keep in mind that during this time we went through all the experiments with "barrel shaped", tapered, reverse tapered, and stepped honing.

This the reason I've been purchasing from them for over ten years. Still, I think PPS has them beat.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:23 AM   #35 (permalink)
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This the reason I've been purchasing from them for over ten years. Still, I think PPS has them beat.
While I don't think the precision of LAPCO's barrels really matter all that much in the grand scheme of paintball accuracy, I do appreciate the craftsmanship, and the quality of their anno (I've yet to find any other paintball product that has such a durable anno). That's why I've never hesitated to buy a LAPCO barrel that suited my needs (Snapshot kit, 8.0 .690 FS barrels, 9.1 .690 FS barrels).

Things I like about this barrel:
  • Somewhat of a tight bore for LAPCO
  • Porting (I'd personally like a bit more but, this is good)
  • Single Bore
What I don't like about it:
  • No Apex compatiblity (probably not the demographic that PumpPB was going after)

I hope it sells well enough to convince LAPCO that they need to make more smallbore barrels, with porting.

As for Palmer's- They make brass barrels well (I sent them my Line SI Bushmaster and ordered a custom barrel) but, I don't buy into their 'elliptical honing' one bit.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:30 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Looks like a nice barrel. Milling makes me go meh.

.681 is still way too big for any underboring application for me. If I add my ifit kit, it'd be a telescope.

This will be a great barrel for those who aren't running barrel kits/systems and are ok with the milling and length.

I'd rather spend my money on the Eigen barrel or Apoc's step barrel.
But hey, that's just me.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:13 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Hey, tight bore, AND ribbed for pleasure? LAPCO comes through for us again.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:31 PM   #38 (permalink)
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But in one piece barrels this feature is limited to pps's eliptical honed barrels and the eigen V2.. (I think). (edit: and guys that drill out their one piece barrels for inserts.)
I'm 99.99% sure that WDP Infinity barrels are also step bore one pc's. I just don't want to dig out my AA FL LCD project box to double check sorry.

This does sound like a nice barrel though, I like the 10" Control bore... But Im hard pressed to put anything other then one of my DW carbon fiber barrels on anything thats AC threaded.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:37 PM   #39 (permalink)
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That looks like a nice barrel! Gonna try it out.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:12 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I see no reason to buy this when I could buy a .678 eigenbarrel for $40.
Exactly what I thought.
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