Yeah, you can use about any normal-style bolt, as long as it has two tail o-ring rings.
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ChoSanJusn,
With your guidance, I just finished meching my old Ion.
Thank you!!!Comment
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YES! Congrats! Throw up a pic in the sticky. I wanna see!Originally posted by steamburn View Post
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I just want to add a quick tip: use pen springs over your lines where you have bends to prevent kinksAttached FilesComment
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Hey guys comming back i have mech my gog excty from a comment before , and i added a qev last week and haven't noticed any big difference, have anybody tested the qev for the added speed or efficiency?Comment
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I have one without, and 2 with it. The QEV allows for a slightly lower pressure which is better for the valve in the long run. It's also snappier as the bolt can cycle forward just a bit faster.Comment
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After giving up on my ion mechanical project for a bit and wanting to finish things in progress, I ordered a mech kit from SSC. I had first thought of buying the parts but some only come in pack of 5 and I don't want to make my own kits to sell, I have so much going on that I don't want to disperse myself even more.
So I reread the whole post from the beginning and I have 2 or 3 questions to ask.
The first concerns the epiphany's fire can, which has too high a working pressure to operate mechanically. I have the 3 inserts with it and you can even use it without an insert. Wouldn't that be a solution to increase the air volume and lower the pressure?
The second question, in connection with the first concerns the fire can NDZ. What does it have more than that of an original ion?
Finally, you talk about QEV. Is it compulsory? Should I use it in front and behind?Comment
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#1 yes the Epiphany can operates at a higher pressure than the Smav 3 valve is rated for, but I think someone here did it. Would it be beneficial in any way? Not sure. The Ion platform is a gas hog no matter what.
#2 Not sure haven't dealt with one of those, but if it is for an Ion, not an Epiphany, it should be alright
#3 See my comment right above yours. You use it on the front can fitting only. The rear of the can "vents" through the breech when you fire a shot, unlike the front chamber which has to dump externally to allow the bolt to go forward.
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Even without any inserts in, Epiphanies run at too high of a pressure to achieve 280fps... the weak link is the 3-56 barb on the Smav, the hose just leaks and/or pops off over 200psi.
I tried, believe me.
Short of mechanically securing the hoses, whether you use some type of clamp or an adhesive, they will come off the Smav. Even with securing the hoses, the Smav is really only rated for 150psi max, and the valve gets progressively harder to actuate as input pressure increases over that max, IME.Comment
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Originally posted by fouge View Post
No. Even with all the inserts removed, the red epiphany firing can does not have a enough volume to reach velocity at mech ion operating pressures.
Volume. The NDZ Ion can has more volume then the stock Ion can, so it can reach velocity at even lower pressures then you would be able to with a stock mech Ion can. I'm not sure exactly how much volume, but my mech epiphany that uses it operates about 20/25 PSI lower then the mech Ion's I've built that just use the stock Ion Can.Originally posted by fouge View Post
QEV's are strongly recommended for mech Ions. The gun will function without one, but not well. You only need 1 QEV, the "front" one. Adding a QEV to the rear wouldn't do anything.Originally posted by fouge View Post
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Thanks all. Can, qev and bolt bought. I will rebuild the reg soonLast edited by fouge; 12-29-2022, 04:07 PM.Comment
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I'm assuming someone in here has experience with the SMAV-3. I'm thinking about another project and had a few questions about how it functions
I'm assuming the input is on the small end there, what I would need is output to let's say output A until it is pressed, then output to B . When released I need the venting of B
Venting of A may be a null factor whether it vents or not but I would like to know
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I've 3 Qev's, 3 clippard Mev-2. All are 10-32 threaded but 2 are different. Each have a letter on with a number 6, one Q, on S and one T. What's the best?
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I just threw one of these together real quick (no final mounting) and well…. There is nothing to it. I have a MAVO-3 valve instead of the SMAV so it’s much larger, but can still be squeezed into the frame. I had it on hand so using the free valve I have vs buying one. I can wedge this large valve into the frame in such a way that the trigger activates it and there is no room for it to wiggle. So as long as I manage to route hoses it really works out well. Not sure if the throw is longer or anything, but it is plenty short.
Look forward to finishing this when time allows.Comment
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Sounds like you need a 4way (what a Cocker uses) not a Smav, which is really more like a convertible 2way in that it can be rigged as a NO or NC valve. (Normally Open/Normally Closed respectively.)Originally posted by Trbo323 View PostComment
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I put this one together yesterday;
I ran into two minor issues;
1. You have to make sure you use the right trigger. I found that one where the geometry is similar to a stock trigger worked best.
2. Hose routing - make sure they are longer than needed, and cut them to fit so that there are no kinks. Make small cuts, lots of trial fits.
I used a pen spring to prevent a kink on the line going to the QEV.
I used a 360-QEV and a dual oring Shocktech bolt.
I fit the SMAV first, and worked my hoses from there.
The trigger is definitely different....
WalkerLast edited by Walker; 01-28-2023, 11:59 AM.Comment
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