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Old 08-29-2007, 01:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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this smg's year? and has anyone seen a tagmaster like this?

hey again i have 2 other guns(of my 8 pre 2k guns)

First one is this smg. I havent seen another one yet that has the chromed barrel and hammer housing, (i think it was done by tippmann because the entire fixed barrel is chrome even the area inside the casted aluminum body. It looks to be casted better then my other smg so i have a feeling its younger then it as well. it also has the internal hose so it is not the first year i know that. Im sorry i dont know much about the smgs if this question is stupid mainly because this gun is older then me or as old as me i think







Second gun is a pretty special traccer tagmaster. the story went (i dont know if its true or not) but there was a charity tournament held at alle kiski paintball in PA in 1994. (believable) the prize was 10 (10 man tournament) custom anodized and laser engraved tagmasters.(still believable) the winners of the guns were the philly americans (eh there from the same state and were around back then so eh) and the final bit was this specific one belonged to adam gardener(one of the smart parts owner, this is also eh he played on philly around then so i guess it could fit in). I call it the moonlite edition because the gun has moonlite engraved on the side. also it says traccer se on the other. im guessing se might mean special edition or something of that nature? its definitly the tagmaster because of the under barrel hidden cocking rods, it also has the long barrel with the porting and the muzzle break, and it has the bottom line kit, has an aluminum highly polished bolt that is open face and has been step drilled (not adjustable though), also the hammer i think is polished and had something put on it because it has no signs of rust. And the final difference is that there is more porting going to the valve chamber from where the air gets let in. gun is in excellent condition and looked like it sat on a shelf because it still looks new, also shoots great and helped my team get a 4th place in a pump tourney last year (got beat down by old men lol). Also almost forgot but the trigger frame has 3 different manufacturers names on it but i think thats common maybe?

(word moonlite with a moon and some stars on the side)
(naked girl on side of barrel)
(says traccer se )
(says ALLE Kiski Paintball)

if someone was big in paintball and near pa in 1994 im wondering if you could confirm this story or if anyone has a sister gun or knows of one id love to see it
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Alle Kiski eh? Heard of them, being local to here. Maybe infamoussmiley might have some info.

Oh, and the team would be the All Americans, before they were the Philly Americans. A place to call up might be Punisher's Paintball Supply 412-781-9350, ask for Phil. He's the owner and been playing with or around those guys for years. I'll see if any of our guys has any info.

Oh, care to take any better photos? Im really interested in that gun. Look for the macro button on your camera, it looks like a flower and allows you to focus on close objects.
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ill get better pictures that was on my camera phone my camera is down south jersey (where my family is building a house and im at my aunts about an hour away from it) but ill see what i can do. thanks for the help and ill probably give punisher a call soon

and i philly still are the Philadelphia All-Americans that is just a shortened name unless your saying that they did not have the city infront of there name which would be for the nxl i guess.

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I vaguely recall an SMG other than the HTI white ones, done with a Chrome Barrel.
I had an internal line SMG in 1990 if I recall correctly.
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All Americans where just the SP sponsored team for a while before the NXL even existed. Back in those days, the Gardners played on it themselves, and IIRC, it was based out of Loyalhanna (40min near Pittsburgh) where SP was based.
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good to know makes the story sound more believable.
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I have an Boa Smg60 that has a boa chromed or nickeled brass barrel (doesn't make it shoot the older paint any better though ) and a custom hammer. The barrel is inside of a steel sleeve though and the body isn't polished or chromed.
Are you sure that the barrel and the body weren't just polished?
Looks nice either way.
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I have an Boa Smg60 that has a boa chromed or nickeled brass barrel (doesn't make it shoot the older paint any better though ) and a custom hammer. The barrel is inside of a steel sleeve though and the body isn't polished or chromed.
Are you sure that the barrel and the body weren't just polished?
Looks nice either way.
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the barrel really looks like it was chromed and then placed in. the body is still black though except for the part where the hammer sits in that has also been polished im calling it a hammer housings for lack of a better term
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More higher quality pictures of both guns

first the tagmaster







now here is 2 more of the smg the rust looks worst in the pictures then it really is but if you look closely you can see that the back of the barrel and the inside is also chromed

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Hmmm, sometyhing I didn't notice before... Does that smg have some sort of trigger stop?
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